Pretty pointless, I don't recall anyone suggesting any wank flicks from Shameless, so they clearly don't take suggestions into account :lol:

If you want a wank flick watch some porn, Can't go wrong then.

For those hoping for something a little less sexually sleazy, fear not! There's more to come in early 2014 that will be much more to your tastes ;)

Exactly, which is why these films and the same type from Arrow have zero interest from me.
Glad some people want them, so I hope they sell well, just means I'll have to wait another year for them to release something I might buy :lol:

At least you won't have to complain for two months that they haven't arrived yet.... :tongue1:

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Been there, done that, worn the t-shirt. Unfortunately it doesn't get you anywhere.

Ah well no Nazi bollocks.
So that's Baka and me pals again!:cool:
Alright Baka?;)

I picked up Arrow's sleazers for completeness,so I'll pick these up as well.

Never seen any of them,so the Andress number may be not bad.

I have not seen any of these films but ill will get around to picking them up the more support they get the better. Just nice to see shameless back in the game.
My Shameless collection is small but im working on it.

Oh dear, over at blu ray.com, everyone's talking these up as blu ray releases, to the point that they made an article on the news page about new blu rays from Shameless.

These have been confirmed as DVDs only right?

That was pretty foolish of them without actually confirming with Shameless first!

Yes, these two titles will be DVD only. There's enough people not wanting to buy the DVDs, so Shameless would be signing their own death warrant if they'd released these on Blu, in my opinion.

What the people on Blu-ray.com often don't realise is that Blu-ray is still a pretty niche format. Yes, it seems popular on the internet amongst us, because we are collectors, but aside form myself, I don't know many people in the 'real world' who would even consider buying Blu-ray discs (and none of them would buy titles like these!)

People need to remove their heads from their asses and go outside and see how the real world functions sometimes.

For most people, price is still the biggest factor. On the rare occasions they'll actually buy a film, they'll hit up their local HMV or town centre, or order it from Amazon marketplace as cheaply as they can.

We need to remember that we film fans and collectors may seem mighty on here, but we are nothing but a grain of sand in the vast desert that is real life. Whilst we can shout and scream and suggest, we are nothing in the grand scheme of things. Whilst I know for a fact that Shameless listen and care about their fans (as do some other companies no doubt), there are other factors at work that doesn't mean if we suggest 'X' title they will make it so just because they care, at the expense of themselves - they're not a concierge service! :tongue1:

Plus, as Kyle says we have more to look forward to in 2014, so I for one am looking forward to Shameless' resurgence as a UK distributor. Pkus, who knows what they have in store for the future. There have been so many titles suggested to them, that I'm sure they'll be looking into some of them - these things take time though.

Well said b_e!!

Good to see they have now taken down the news article, and in the official shameless thread a mod has done some research and confirmed them as DVD only :clap:

I feel like I need to add in a counter point to all those blindly supporting the need for the dvd format. First of all I appreciate that when there's no hd material to get hold of then there's no blu ray to be made.

But the collecting market has changed over the years to where a lot of collectors just aren't buying DVDs at all. All the friends and family I know that aren't collectors are now moving over to streaming.

There's a good reason why Arrow (and other successful UK labels like SecondSight) release everything (but the odd arrowdrome dvd) on blu ray - that's where the collectors demand is. There's a reason why Arrow's output has dramatically increased over the years because they're taking advantage both of the hd format and increasing their online presence.

Shameless are fool hearty to rely on the impluse buy from retail stores (which are steadily disappearing and more than ever relying on mainstream titlea for sales) to amount to any SUBSTANTIAL sales. Now I know that Shameless will have sales stats for low uptake on THEIR blu rays (well at least two of them!) because no one wants to own cut movies in this day and age especially when they are alternative blu ray releases avaliable for those two both uncut AND cheaper than the Shameless discs.

Like I said I can imagine that there's no HD material for the two newly announced titles (but I wouldn't rule it out - there's a bunch of US labels putting out the most random movies in [good looking] blu ray) so thats fair enough but things are a changing in the collectors market, something that a lot of people here seem to be oblivious about (or more likely putting their head in the sand). By all means buy them to keep your Shameless spines growing but don't expect many others to blindly do the same.

Do tell where we can find an uncut Blu Ray of Cannibal Holocaust, or any other Blu Ray of it in fact.
I'm not a fan of buying cut movies either, like the majority on here, but because I wanted CH on BD, I bought the Shameless release, and because I wanted to support them, I also bought it on DVD too despite owning 2 further fully uncut versions.
Yes NYR can be found uncut via Blue Underground fairly cheap, but not everyone likes to import discs from the US for fear of customs charges etc. so some people chose to buy the Shameless release (I'm not one of them, I'm happy with the BU DVD for now)

Whilst I do agree on some of your points, shel (particularly in reference to streaming), it is well known that the majority of Shameless' sales come from brick and mortar high street stores, and potentially a lot of their revenue is from non-collectors and even in the form of blind buys, as let's face it, most collectors such as ourselves will buy online at a cheaper price. So, there is still a big market when it comes to physically buying DVDs from shops.

This may (and has already started to) shift more towards the online market, but as for Blu-ray, aside from collectors, the market is very small, and may get even smaller with the rise in streaming and on-demand services.

I may come across as anti Blu-ray in my posts, but I am one who has pretty much gone completely Blu-ray myself, but the arrogance and the snobbery of some Blu-ray fans and their attitude towards DVD is what I abhor.

Not wanting to be a smart arse, but there is a French blu ray of Cannibal Holocuast which I believe is uncut, but has the same transfer quality.

Also, Shameless's NYR is not cut, but more an alternate version, as it is technically the longest available cut if I remember correctly.

There's a French disc. *EDIT* - Fuzzy beat me to it.

As for NYR, Shameless' version, despite being cut in reference to the nipple slicing scene, does include footage that is not present in any other version - which is why I have both the BU and Shameless BDs.

Completely agree :nod:

I stand corrected, I thought the Shameless release was the only one, my apologies to Shel :o

Has it got forced French subs does anyone know?

Yeah, I totally fail to comprehend the mindset of folk on here who refuse to buy dvds now. As a film fan, the film is the most important thing to me. I couldn't really give a toss if it is only made available on dvd. Blu Ray is still a nice, non-essential bonus for me. People are strange...

It hasnt got forced subs and peeps saying it came from same source as Shameless version so any complaints applied to French version pq are present on Shameless (haven't made comparison myself).




There's so many great movies being released on blu ray you could do with having a small fortune to keep up before even getting into dvds (ironically a lot of Shameless dvds are more expensive than blu rays - doesn't give much incentive). Not to mention sods law when you buy a dvd only for someone to announce it coming as blu ray soon after (been there!).

A lot of these dvd only movies are availble via various streaming services so you can't blame anyone that are content with opting to watch the lossy streamed version until whenever / if a blu ray is announced.

Its the other way around. People who dont care about PQ are opting into streaming whilst those do are buying blu rays. There's sales evidence to show that dvd sales are on the decrease the blu ray share is increasing (constant growth shown in 2013). Streaming is cannibalising dvd sales not blu rays.

One of the new titles sounds alright so it could of been worse. As for the BD or DVD choice i still watch a lot of pan and scan VHS and Beta so to me DVD is a cool format that does the job.
I sometimes think fans become more interested in aspect ratios and picture quality than just enjoying a good film. Fans have gotten spoilt basically.

Certainly for new titles its an easier choice, do I pay £10 for the dvd or £13 for the blu-ray? With the prices of both formats so close now it seems better value for money to spend the little extra for the improved audio and transfer.

I've been blu-ray only for a while now and thankfully managed to sell off all my dvd movies before they started selling for a pound each on ebay

The only dvds I still buy are TV series which may well never see an HD release
but having watched blu-rays for this long I find dvd transfers to be pretty poor in comparison but that might just be my own preference.

I think the more time goes on it's inevitable that companies will switch to blu-ray only for many of their releases although it may then switch to downloads only eventually, which I'm sure none of us want.

What I do find strange however is when companies release the same films over again on dvd when there are already decent versions in other territories when they could have had the option of being the first release to hit blu-ray and at least have something unique to offer.

The reason companies are only releasing Blu's of films is because in the majority of cases the films are already widely available on dvd in the UK.

The ones that aren't come out as dual format.

The latest sales figures only show blu-ray as being 13% of total UK sales. Streaming is taking over the rental market rather than the collecting one at the moment.

I suggest trying a different shop! Aren't they all pretty much easily available under a tenner? Most are £5-7 in Fopp . . .

If that's the case I wonder if arrow etc will set up some type of streaming service because most of the movies we like on this forum we can't get from streaming sites, hey me personally I would much rather have a nice box with some great extras, which is something we won't see on streaming. But it is the future for better or worse but blu will still be hear for a few more years, I would say at least 5 with the gen of consoles having blu ray drives.

I'm sure both blu and dvd will be here in five years time. However i am also pretty sure that these formats will be the last we see.

Hopefully, I'm not upgrading for a third time!

Nah, there'll be 4K discs, Sony & Panasonic are working on it.

4K Ultra HD | Zavvi.com
Some titles already up for preorder no need for new player. Mind it will be a long time if ever when I buy a 4k tv

That's decided, then. From this moment on, I'm going 4K RELEASES ONLY :nod: . . .

Sure it'll save you money in the long run ;)

To be fair, they aren't 4k releases, they're still blurays. They're mastered from 4k sources with the highest possible bit-rate on the disc (no extras) but it's still a 1080p disc. I think the general idea is that it'd look better upscaled on a 4k tv than a standard bluray but of course they'll also look better than the previous bluray releases as well.

Well I'm happy with blu ray and don't think I will upgrade until someone invents a holo deck and you can be part of the movie!

Totally agree mate. It's an excellent format and I can't imagine a lot of films looking better on a home viewing format. Faced with the choice between dvd and a bluray I'll always go for the latter each time (unless there's a ridiculous price difference but I still buy dvds as well.

Looking at the two new titles, I will not be getting them really don't interest me at all, but glad that shameless are bringing something out.

See i'm doing the right thing just getting dvd's. Why replace them with poxy blu ray when i can go 5K in five years time. :nod: :lol:

Five years time it will be holodecks!