If you read it again, he's saying that even 88 Films put the effort in when they can't afford to be as extravagant as Arrow, where as Shameless usually do a trailer reel and if you're lucky a 10 minute interview piece...

Every time I hear shameless are putting out a new release my heart sinks. They're holding up the rights to so many great films that would undoubtably have been given the treatment they deserve in the UK by other labels. They constantly patronise genre fans w/ their lurid artwork and press releases that smack of desperation. It says a lot that the biggest selling point they can come up with for a horror classic is a shite addition of 3 prologue variants that nobody ever asked for and I'm sure not too many will give a flying **** about.

So Shameless also got House by the Cemetery now??
Well, let's hope that Blue-Underground gives it the 4K treatment, in the near future.

Why won't this lazy and shitty label just ****ing die already...

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See it now, thanks

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The best thing about Shameless is the fact you can still get a decent price when you trade in their DVDs at cex, I got £40-odd when I traded in just under a dozen. Their blurays also inexplicably hold their price.

Used to have a tad of sympathy for them, trying to compete in a dwindling market, now I just feel disdain.

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You wouldn't feel disdain if you had to try and release a title in this country. It's pretty thankless.

That Beyond has pretty nice artwork.

I agree, it's about time they embraced the 'full screen' artwork, as it were :)

Can't view the link, is there a date for The beyond?

Shameless, doing what nobody else will, shedloads of Italian horror cinema hitting uk retail for the first time. I for one, support you fully, your prints are great, ignore the haters & people who are more interested in bitrate & noise compression thanwatching a great movie.

Keep going! True horror fans appreciate you. When print quality is more important than the film itelf, you've stopped loving movies & started loving technology instead.

It's all about whether the original Mongolian VHS artwork is available and taking photos for Twitter of loads of shit films lined up on a shelf in numerical order that have never been watched whilst dreaming about contact with an actual female.

Not very specific, just "mid-May".

I agree to some extent, but there’s no excuse for the stuttering on Dellamorte Dellamore and banning members/ignoring/turning off comments on Facebook because people who spent hard earned cash on it complained and wanted to know if the problem was going to be rectified (it’s hasn’t and isn’t going to be) is not good business sense IMO :nod:

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i was thinking the other day i have not bought The Beyond in a couple of years ill have to have it for my beyond collection.

I'm going to get it, unless Blue Underground put it out or something.

Blue Underground won’t because Grindhouse have already released it not all that long ago

But surely you need all the versions because each one may have a different extra of an interview of Catriona McColl at some convention type thing telling the same stories you've heard before, all in the crappest old video recording quality imaginable. And if doesn't have that maybe just some talking head paid to say things that you could work out yourself about the film?

However, if the detail on the spine is not in line with other similar releases on that label then absolutely do not buy it.

I wold have bought the grindhouse blu but i have there DVD ill rebuy the beyond over and over but only 1 version per company.

Excuse my cynicism but I follow the likes of 8 Films, Arrow, Eureka etc on twitter and it really pisses me off all these tragic zoomer fanboys who seem more concerned with collecting blu rays and how pretty they look on their shelves than they actually do about the films themselves. Folk sitting with big piles of blu rays they've never got round to watch. Well why are you buying them.

I've only ever had They Beyond on that Vipco DVD so I'm probably more entitled than anyone to buy it on blu ray :)

Although I don't collect every available version of the films that I'm interested in across multiple labels, mainly because I only want the best and most reasonably priced version, I don't see why other people collecting multiple versions should piss you off. There are plenty of things in life worth being pissed off about, particularly in terms of the political realm and society at large, but concentrating your ire on collectors seems just about as pointless to me as you can get.

Although I personally scratch my head at why anyone would want 23 versions of a single film from multiple labels, if some people want to spend their money on that kind of thing that is up to them. I'm not being asked to pay for the stuff, and neither are you for that matter, so I really can't see your problem. So what if some people are fanboys, they are hardly hurting other people after all?

I can see where John Matrix is coming from although he could have expressed himself a little less tetchier.

I think his words ring true in a way. Not regarding how many editions of a film someone has, that matters not, but if he 'follows' a label on social media he may be hoping other followers discuss the film in question rather than tech aspects or indeed artworks.

That's me though, i'd prefer to know if the film is good or bad, gory or not, exploitative, scary, whatever, than it's number in a collection.

Naturally, if a release is of sub standard quality or missing a sailing yacht then i'd want to know things like that from fellow 'followers'. :lol:

As for me, i don't even keep my labels together on the shelf. Organized chaos is all the rage round these parts..

I didn't say that John Matrix didn't have a point. In terms of people collecting everything that certain labels release that is something that I don't do personally.

There is a bloke on one of the other forums, I think he is an American, and he salivates over everything that Code Red release whilst more or less pushing the argument that all other labels release sub-standard products. In my opinion there are some very ropey Code Red releases and labels such as Camera Obscura, Vinegar Sydrome, Arrow and 88 Films blow them out of the water.

I agree though that quality should be the most important thing about any release rather than which label releases it or the artwork.

He's called Bill Olsen.

He owns Code Red. ;)

I should have seen that one coming!

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Poor old Bill does get some stick!

Serves him right for being such a colossal asshat :lol:

WTF is it to other people how,why,what or when move/film fans collect things?

To each their own....it's the people who constantly harp on about other people's 'habits' that need to get away from the keyboard and get the **** out of the house more.

Exactly.
And everyone to their own

You care about films and you only own The Beyond on Vipco?

You're a ****ing comedian mate.:lol:

Personally i like a film to be uncut and presented in the original ratio if possible and a fairly decent print but dvd quality is fine
, i have a lot of classic films that i'm not interested in upgrading because they are perfectly watchable copies.

i'm not too worried about Blu ray copies sure they look totally spanking sometimes but it can also pinpoint defects that were not noticeable on a less sharp copy.

I still think a rough copy of Texas Chainsaw is more effective than sparkly sunshine.

Bit like how modern porn is too "enhanced" to be as sexy as girl next door 70's porn. ( or maybe it's just me, i digress)

I have numerous copies of old toss films, stuff like Vipco's "The Nostril picker" utter shite but i kinda like having a copy, i don't really need a 4K version and neither does anyone else for that matter.

Even films i love i won't upgrade if i've got a decent copy unless it's a steal and stupidly cheap.

i've lost track here really but what i'm saying is it's nice to have a juicy copy of a favourite film but sometimes grindhouse grade is better.

I'd rather spend money on a "new to me" film than a slight upgrade that is not really gonna enhance the film in any way.

Then again if you would rather watch a film constantly over and over in a cave somewhere a 4K upgrade would surely make all the difference for all of 10 minutes.

I guess what i'm saying is if u want 2 spend all your money on 10 versions of 1 film then knock yourself out.

See if i care.


My collection is a film collection i like or stuff that interests me, not a collection of a collection.:cool:

Shit me that was hard work.:pop2:

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I do agree on what you said the sharper the quality can sometimes take away the tonne of the film and then it loses its effect and appeal.

If my DVD quality is good then I'm not arsed about replacing it with blu ray or 4k unless I find it for mere pennies,
But at same time I've got odd blu ray film where quality is absolutely bismall And makes the DVD look like 4k :lol:

But where next 8k then what ?

Why can't companies release something that really does need upgrading, like a film that's not seen light of day since vhs, or something obscure that's only been released by one company and its region locked, (people still collect vhs because so many films have not even had a dvd release) after all do we really need New York ripper being released again for the umpteenth time by god knows how many different film companies, look how many times TCM has been released.

I know we all want a decent collection and good collection and we are all different \ fussy in our own way that's just how it is. My collection at moment is here there and everywhere and in order like a junk shop but I still know where to find what I'm looking for. I would like it tidier but that's just how it is at the moment until (hopefully ) we move.

That is a good point and something that I've always thought. When you consider that a huge number of films never made it to VHS, even less made it to DVD, fewer still made it to Blu-ray and even fewer still will make it to UHD it sometimes feels a little frustrating, even though there is nothing that we can do about that.

When I think about all the cool gialli and other types of filone that have never been given English-friendly releases on either DVD or Blu-ray, it makes me wish that we could have some of those released rather than 4K remasters of titles that have already had multiple releases.

Exactly, I'm pretty sure there a huge library of films that has never been released on any format, or some obscure film/ tv show shown in the 70/80s that never been aired again since, after all wouldn't that be a good bonus and advantage for the company as well.

I too agree that there is too much emphasis on re-releasing product which has already been done to death, I am a film collector who buy's for the enjoyment of the movie itself, apart from the odd special packaged ltd edition that come around I tend to stick to just buying standard editions at a more less inflated price, I am always hoping that something new will be announced to add a breath of fresh air to the choice, I have quite a few upgrades from dvd to blu ray and have no intention of upgrading to 4K as there is nothing wrong with the version I now own, I stupidly sold off a lot of my collection a few years back and am in the process of replacing certain titles back into my collection while not bothering with others, i'm becoming more selective in the versions I buy these day's. :cool:

I agree, I'm not made of money or have a lot to my name, hence why I do a lot of buying from car boots, charity, cex etc. Im selective if I'm paying eg £10 or over i wont buy blind or take a punt for that price, but if I'm buying £1 from charity shop then I'm not to fussed. Like most collectors we like to have a nice huge collection and we all do, and no denying :nod:because if didn't some wouldn't buy 10 plus films a week and have 3000 plus films.
Personally with that comment I'd rather have 2000 plus films bought cheap than own say 300 films bought at a ridiculous price because it's oop, (but that just me). Like all collectors we do like to own as many films as we can etc but I'd rather own a bare bones film than not own it all if I can't afford the deluxe edition with all the bells and whistles.

To each his own.....:)

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