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killfinger 29th September 2009 02:55 PM

True. There is a strange kinda vibe in there...
Then again i sometimes feel that Argento is somewhat overrated considering the quantity vs quality count... but those early Gialli sure are grand.

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Philleh 29th September 2009 03:01 PM

Saying that, as weak as the story is I did have some fun with it. I was one of the few who actually liked the Mothers crazy-ass monkey sidekick-thingy! :fear:

I'm a rabid Argento fan, so the only films I really have issues with are Trauma, Phantom of the Opera and, to lesser extent, Card Player - which came across more 'made-for-TV' than his actual made-for-TV effort Do You like Hichcock?: which also left me non-plussed.

The Reaper Man@Cult Labs 29th September 2009 04:30 PM

Agreed,you certainly can't beat his earlier stuff,but I found some enjoyment to be taken from those films you mentioned Phill.
MOT was always gonna fall short of the other two,especially Suspiria.:)

Philleh 2nd October 2009 10:53 AM

Watch Giallo yesterday, I couldn't really get into it. It wasn't boring, but it wasn't engaging either and it certainly didn't feel like an Argento movie. I went in expecting bad things, so I wasn't too disapointed but I found Mother of Tears to be more enjoyable than this.

The Reaper Man@Cult Labs 2nd October 2009 05:44 PM

Any more info mate?
Any good points at all?

Philleh 3rd October 2009 07:39 AM

The whole film doesn't get out of first gear, there's no real excitement generated anywhere. Brody's acting barely registers and the rest of the cast are worse, the story is extremely clichéd to boot!

Good things? Erm, it looks good? Score isn't half bad either, but definately not the usual type of OST Argento would go for. It's the first Argento film I've seen that I have no strong feelings for, be they good or bad.

The Reaper Man@Cult Labs 3rd October 2009 06:37 PM

Studio or moneymen interference no doubt.....:mmph:

Philleh 5th October 2009 09:17 AM

Someone's definately been fiddling with it. It'll be worth a watch for any Argento fan just to see what happens when he makes a film for the money and not because he has passion for the project.

The Reaper Man@Cult Labs 20th March 2010 10:44 PM

I've had a quick look at the MYA DVD of FOUR FLIES.....It's a cracking print.
Did this disc not get some stick?:confused:

I can't see why.....:confused:

bdc 21st March 2010 08:43 AM

"It would appear that the MYA print is cut in exactly the same places as a TV broadcast on Italian telly back in the early 90's. The cuts occur at precisely the same time as the adverts appear on the TV broadcast. This suggests (confirms, even...) that it's not 'print damage' at the end of the reels to blame for those brief missing segments - as has been suggested in a few places. MYA simply used a TV broadcast master.

Also, unsurprisingly, the recent screening on Italian TV was identical to the MYA disc with the same brief cuts."

"The English audio was lifted from the Retrofilm dvd and the pitch is way out (speeded up for ntsc). Everybody's voice sounds wrong. The awful quality US trailers were also nicked from the same disc."

"...the scenes that were shot day-for-night are correctly presented in the German transfer. That and the audio is better."

"I know everyone has moaned about the German and US releases of the film, but for better or worse, they're both worth hanging onto."

Mya
"the sound quality is a different story, however. The Italian language track (which isn’t accompanied by English subtitles) is great and everything one would expect from a mono track of its age but the same cannot be said for the English dub. The English track is fine for the most part, though I did struggle to hear some dialogue but the disc’s biggest problem is that it suffers from a rather distracting distortion audible whenever Morricone’s signature cue plays out."

"It’s also worth noting that like the Retromedia release, there are minute passages of the film that are absent from the Mya release and these sections differ from those missing from the German disc. These missing elements include the introduction to the scene just prior to Roberto meeting with Godfrey for the first time and a line of dialogue between the same characters at the end of the film, after Nina walks out the door. There’s also a colour grading issue in the scene in which the housemaid waits for the blackmailer in the park: the scene was obviously shot day for night with the intention of correcting the colour in post-production. In the Retromedia release there is a gradual descent into darkness, whereas the Mya release lingers in the daylight before making an abrupt transition into darkness when the maid is chased through the park’s gardens. Again, this is a minor issue but one that could have been so easily avoided by those overseeing the transfer."

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