The Concert Thread

[gag]

I’d go and see genesis if prices weren't so dear.

[Dave Boy]

Not my Genesis. This is the Genesis for the MTV chart hits.

[Susan Foreman]

Originally Posted by Dave Boy

Not my Genesis. This is the Genesis for the MTV chart hits.

Absolutely

Genesis are Collins, Rutherford and Banks with Steve Hackett on guitar and Peter Gabriel in face make-up, performing songs that last 20 minutes

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by Susan Foreman

Absolutely

Genesis are Collins, Rutherford and Banks with Steve Hackett on guitar and Peter Gabriel in face make-up, performing songs that last 20 minutes

Seems to me that bands with longevity evolve and change with the times whilst fans stay stuck in a rut and refuse to embrace change despite a 28 year recording career.

Evidence sample one - Dave and Susan (see above)

Evidence sample two - Quote from Nordicdusk regarding Metallica.

Originally Posted by Nordicdusk

I thought Metallica only had 4 albums

[Justin101]

Unless the lead songwriter leaves the band I don't see the problem with the line-up evolving and changing, many great bands have changed with the times. Look at Iron Maiden and Bon Jovi as prime examples! Also Marillion... purists still only consider the Fish years but 'H' has been in the band for far longer at this point and has much more in terms of recorded albums. But, unless Steve R, Pete and Ian leave the band it's still the SAME band (only with a better singer...)

[Dave Boy]

Forget about the line up, the thing is with Genesis is that the music changed.
The best times for me were the Peter Gabriel years although I really like 'Trick Of The Tail' album and tracks from some of the others.
Later music in the mid 1980's on, was geared for the charts and the prog rock group was gone. I did not like that and hated the music. So it's not about being stuck in a rut but about the change in music style.

[Nordicdusk]

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs

Seems to me that bands with longevity evolve and change with the times whilst fans stay stuck in a rut and refuse to embrace change despite a 28 year recording career.

Evidence sample one - Dave and Susan (see above)

Evidence sample two - Quote from Nordicdusk regarding Metallica.

Mine was a joke on the elitist metalheads view of Metallica. My issue with Metallica is that to me watching performances over the last few year im just dont feel its coming from the heart it feels flat and that hurts me because i loved them for years. I embrace musical progression from bands as long as i feels to me that it's coming from the right place if it feels fake to me i wont get on board it's not that i'm close minded or not open to change but it has to mean something to me.

Darkthrone
Rush
Primordial
My Dying Bride
Mastodon
Neurosis
Enslaved

Just a small list of bands that change almost every album and i still love those bands because it feels real to me.

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by Dave Boy

Forget about the line up, the thing is with Genesis is that the music changed.
The best times for me were the Peter Gabriel years although I really like 'Trick Of The Tail' album and tracks from some of the others.
Later music in the mid 1980's on, was geared for the charts and the prog rock group was gone. I did not like that and hated the music. So it's not about being stuck in a rut but about the change in music style.

I never mentioned line up changes i was saying that the fans didn't change with the bands sound over the years.

Personally i think pretty much every song i've ever heard from Genesis has been MOR shit.

[Justin101]

I personally don't care for either era of Genesis so I'm here to just stir the pot

Seriously though, everyone likes different things which makes life more interesting The great thing about music is that there is so much variety that there is enough out there to find what rocks your boat and you don't have to worry about the other bits!

I have to agree about Metallica though, it's just not the same anymore.

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by Nordicdusk

Mine was a joke on the elitist metalheads view of Metallica. My issue with Metallica is that to me watching performances over the last few year im just dont feel its coming from the heart it feels flat and that hurts me because i loved them for years. I embrace musical progression from bands as long as i feels to me that it's coming from the right place if it feels fake to me i wont get on board it's not that i'm close minded or not open to change but it has to mean something to me.

Darkthrone
Rush
Primordial
My Dying Bride
Mastodon
Neurosis
Enslaved

Just a small list of bands that change almost every album and i still love those bands because it feels real to me.

My Dying Bride don't exactly change their sound every album. It's as doomy and slow as can be.

I'd hardly call something like Like Gods of the Sun to be up tempo and the one time they really changed their sound and lyrics all their core fans cried - 34.788%...Complete

Primordial are a good example though, Amorphis are another who change their music and vocals frequently.

Have Mastodon really changed their musical style that much? Certainly not sound wise but they have become poppier in their song writing.