Arrow Video - Inferno - The Archive

[Inspector Tanzi]

Originally Posted by Calum

Yes, my bad - although your Kermode story is hilarious.

I was at the NFT and William Friedkin and Mark Kermode were sitting at a table together signing items, Friedkin signed the laserdisc for me then all of a sudden Kermode grabbed it and went to sign it aswell! I swiftly snatched it back it before he had a chance, he looked quite shocked

[Mbarr]

Jings this thread is turning into an Inferno!, I've just watched the "Mousegate" scene on the Italian Fox DVD (as it's PAL & not NTSC...I'm terrible at these timing things!) and now I'm now I'm confused:

First cat/mouse clip is from 01:29:57 to 01:29:59 (3 secs give or take..mouse in cat's mouth with no movement)

Second cat/mouse clip is from 01:30:04 to 1:30:09 (5 secs mouse in cats mouth with legs kicking about...cat chewing..mouse's lower body falls out of cat's mouth

Now by my understanding they have allowed the first 3 sec shot as there was no visible life/movement from the mouse..yet cut he second as there is? is this not a bit inconsistent? why allow the second shot if the preceding one showed a mouse that was harmed in the second shot?

Argento obviously filmed it to hammer home the whole hunter/prey thing as Mark gets closer to the secret of Mater Tenebranum...it of course would be fantastic to have the short sequence but IMO it's not really gonna hurt the movie (though it will be a pain to edit the audio as all this happens when Emerson's soundtrack is reaching a crescendo)

I already have the AB & Fox DVD's of Inferno & will support Arrow, Callum & co for all the work that has went into this...I'll also be going for the other one due too, as extras for each are so different I'd like to support these boutique labels in the hope that we can get more of these gems out (and in this climate for niche labels we need to try & support them as much as we can)

BTW loving the other panels much improved over the big bare arse!!

[vincenzo]

Originally Posted by Mbarr

BTW loving the other panels much improved over the big bare arse!!

I'll get behind that statement.

[Daemonia]

Originally Posted by Angel

What? Just because of this one 5 second cut.

Unfortunately, yes. I agree with you, it's absurd. Sadly, the legacy of the Ferman years still lives on and people in other territories still view the UK as a place where films are regularly cut by the BBFC. Even until very recently I've still been correcting people. Like I say, unfortunately a lot of people still have this perception that video product coming out of the UK is likely to be censored. I do my best to put people straight, but it usually falls on deaf ears.

I really don't think the Cinematograph Act (Animals) 1937 should be abolished, but it maybe needs a little tweaking so that there's no confusion as to what is acceptable and what isn't. The cannibal films most certainly cross the line but maybe for films like Inferno there should be different considerations; ie: if it's animal doing what it would naturally do, then maybe that should be taken into consideration rather than classing it as animal cruelty. I think we all accept that the likes of Cannibal Holocaust et al will never be uncut on these shores and that's perfectly understandable - there's no doubt that those filmmakers acted irresponsibly and tormented those creatures. But that's man inflicting pain and suffering on an animal, which is highly illegal in this country and an offence you will be jailed for.

[Inspector Tanzi]

Originally Posted by Daemonia

I think we all accept that the likes of Cannibal Holocaust et al will never be uncut on these shores and that's perfectly understandable - there's no doubt that those filmmakers acted irresponsibly and tormented those creatures. But that's man inflicting pain and suffering on an animal, which is highly illegal in this country and an offence you will be jailed for.

Agreed they went too far with them scenes, I understand why the Muskratt/Anaconda scene was removed from Ferox but they even removed where it falls off the truck and they pull it up to safety!

[vincenzo]

Originally Posted by Daemonia

Like I say, unfortunately a lot of people still have this perception that video product coming out of the UK is likely to be censored. I do my best to put people straight, but it usually falls on deaf ears.

Send them to HMV and tell them to buy Caligula. Then they'll see how censored the UK is.

[Daemonia]

Originally Posted by Calum

You mean Casino Royale was cut? What? I must now spend more money importing a foreign edition so that an extra nanosecond can, no doubt, increase my enjoyment of the other two hours of movie even more

Seriously, if you're going to spend more cash importing a foreign edition of this - over five seconds of cat vs mouse - when the UK one has tons of extras (almost an hour of new goodies, plus the usual booklet, poster etc and the World of Horror documentary) then I'm seriously disturbed...

I didn't mean me personally, I'll be having that UK BD for sure. I can't say I'm that eager to see a cat eating a mouse - but you know what the rabid fanboys (and girls) are like. They'll just wail that it's cut and will wait for an uncut foreign release. I'm not saying I agree with that mentality, but we all know that's the way a lot of collectors think. That's aIl I'm trying to say, really. I hope this release does booming business for Arrow and that they will continue forging ahead with their releases. Let me put it this way, I'll support Arrow in the hope that I can get other stuff (which will certainly be uncut ) - and also I'm a sucker for extras on these favourite films of mine.

[the blob]

Originally Posted by vincenzo

I was 34!

In fact I was 14 when the damn film came out.

I was young once. Honest. Been a while ago though.

I'm not far off. Just a couple of years behind..

Extras in HD is good!

[brain dead]

Originally Posted by the blob

Extras in HD is good!

It's been said that the extras on COTLD are in 1080i/50hz. The review at thedigitalfix co.uk (can't post link yet) supports that. (don't know for sure, I haven't recieved the disc yet) In that case, for a lot of us US residents, extras in 1080i/50hz HD is not good.
Hopefully this release is 1080p extras.

[the blob]

Originally Posted by brain dead

It's been said that the extras on COTLD are in 1080i/50hz. The review at thedigitalfix co.uk (can't post link yet) supports that. (don't know for sure, I haven't recieved the disc yet) In that case, for a lot of us US residents, extras in 1080i/50hz HD is not good.
Hopefully this release is 1080p extras.

Hmm.. DVD Beaver usually mentions things like that but not this time obviously. That'll definitely put some US buyers off. More importantly, 60Hz in 1080i or 1080p for maximum worldwide potential.