SHAM036 - Dellamorte Dellamore (Cemetery Man): The Archive Conversation

[Sarah@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by broonage

Spending cash on a blu surely will be worth it?

In theory, yes.

However, the point I've been trying to make - although it would seem I'm making a terrible job of it - is that Blu-rays are too expensive to make.

Say Shameless spend £1000? And for that £1000 they get 1000 DVDs produced? Well, that same £1000 will get them only around 250-330 Blu-rays.

That's all very well and good if Shameless can afford to up their budget and spend £3000-£4000 to get 1000 Blu-ray discs produced, but if they only have £1000 they just can't do it or they only have 250-330 discs to ship to retailers.

It's a very basic analogy but it's proportionally more-or-less correct.

Shameless have limited resources. They can't afford to put the budget up so it's a choice between producing DVDs and having plenty of product to go out to retailers and maximise their profits (thus enabling them to keep operating) or sending out a limited amount of product and having minimal profits (if any once other costs are taken into consideration).

So yes, in theory, making Blu-rays makes sense, but only if Shameless can afford to do so and because of the repercussions of the Sony fire, they can't.

[broonage]

Originally Posted by Sarah@Cult Labs

In theory, yes.

However, the point I've been trying to make - although it would seem I'm making a terrible job of it - is that Blu-rays are too expensive to make.

Say Shameless spend £1000? And for that £1000 they get 1000 DVDs produced? Well, that same £1000 will get them only around 250-330 Blu-rays.

That's all very well and good if Shameless can afford to up their budget and spend £3000-£4000 to get 1000 Blu-ray discs produced, but if they only have £1000 they just can't do it or they only have 250-330 discs to ship to retailers.

It's a very basic analogy but it's proportionally more-or-less correct.

Shameless have limited resources. They can't afford to put the budget up so it's a choice between producing DVDs and having plenty of product to go out to retailers and maximise their profits (thus enabling them to keep operating) or sending out a limited amount of product and having minimal profits (if any once other costs are taken into consideration).

So yes, in theory, making Blu-rays makes sense, but only if Shameless can afford to do so and because of the repercussions of the Sony fire, they can't.

It is a shame, you'll lose a lot of sales just because it isn't blu.
Ok, so instead of releasing a DVD title that we all have/seen, why not put out something a bit more special....

[Nosferatu@Cult Labs]

I know BDs cost 3 to 4 times more to produce than DVDs so, with Shameless' finances in a more parlous state than other, bigger companies who lost stock in the Sony fire, it really boils down to a choice between a DVD release or no release at all.

I'll go with the DVD.

[the blob]

On a side note, can't wait to see Pete get to work on Anna Falchi's boobs for the sleeve...

[bizarre_eye@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by broonage

Ok, so instead of releasing a DVD title that we all have/seen, why not put out something a bit more special....

Ah, c'mon - they've just put out Cannibal Holocaust (supervised by Deodato himself) as a worldwide first on BD, and are about to release Four Flies as another world first on BD - How much more special do you want?!

[Sarah@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by broonage

It is a shame, you'll lose a lot of sales just because it isn't blu.
Ok, so instead of releasing a DVD title that we all have/seen, why not put out something a bit more special....

You keep saying it's a DVD title that we've all seen but not everyone has.

I've actually seen a fair few comments on Twitter and Facebook from people saying it's a film they haven't seen because they've never had the opportunity (i.e. because they don't tend to import films or hunt around for OOP titles).

As bizarre_eye said a few posts ago, the biggest proportion of Shameless' sales still come from casual browsers on the high street, as surprising as it may be. That's a whole big group of people right there who probably have never seen this film because they don't import titles using t'internet.

[broonage]

Originally Posted by bizarre_eye@Cult Labs

Ah, c'mon - they've just put out Cannibal Holocaust (supervised by Deodato himself) as a worldwide first on BD, and are about to release Four Flies as another world first on BD - How much more special do you want?!

Exceedingly true (I really can't wait for Four Flies!), but I'm talking about DD, put out something more special instead of wasting resource on a title that is not new. Or do a blu...

[broonage]

Originally Posted by Sarah@Cult Labs

You keep saying it's a DVD title that we've all seen but not everyone has.

I've actually seen a fair few comments on Twitter and Facebook from people saying it's a film they haven't seen because they've never had the opportunity (i.e. because they don't tend to import films or hunt around for OOP titles).

As bizarre_eye said a few posts ago, the biggest proportion of Shameless' sales still come from casual browsers on the high street, as surprising as it may be. That's a whole big group of people right there who probably have never seen this film because they don't import titles using t'internet.

Ok i'm zipping up...I'm just a fan stating my concerns.

[Nosferatu@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by broonage

Ok, so instead of releasing a DVD title that we all have/seen, why not put out something a bit more special....

Almar said in the past most sales come from the high street and I'd be surprised if casual DVD shoppers had seen or were familiar with Dellamorte Dellamorte. I only saw it for the first time last month and hadn't heard of it until '84 Entertainment released their limited edition Mediabook.

[Make Them Die Slowly]

Shameless should bump the release date up to cash in on the "Dylan Dog" film being released the month before.