Censorship

[Gothmogxx]

Originally Posted by suziginajackson

Is this irony?

According to the BBFC, the upcoming anti-censorship DVD "Video Nasties: the Definitive Guide 2: Draconian Days" has been edited due to '...Compulsory cuts were required to remove sight of real animal cruelty (a live animal being cut open with a knife, during a trailer for 'Last Cannibal World'). Cut required in accordance with BBFC Guidelines and policy."

Thats funny, Jake West said it got by uncut on Facebook...

[platostotal]

Originally Posted by Gothmogxx

Thats funny, Jake West said it got by uncut on Facebook...

My Hardgore copy has the rape scene removed in it's entirety but I'm sure a native slices open an young croc and devourers it with his cannibal chums.

[Gothmogxx]

Originally Posted by Gothmogxx

Thats funny, Jake West said it got by uncut on Facebook...

Update: Looks like you were right. He was talking about the documentary getting by, not the other features.

Video Nasties: the Definitive Guide 2: Draconian Days is a horror documentary video by Marc Morris and Jake West.
Starring Various. BBFC link IMDb 8.4/10
UK: The Documentary was passed 18 uncut for strong violence, gore, sexual violence, sexual images
UK: The Trailer Reel was passed 18 for strong violence, sexual violence, gore, sexual images after 4s of BBFC compulsory cuts for:
• 2014 Nucleus Films R2 DVD at UK Amazon released on 14th July 2014
The BBFC commented: • Compulsory cuts were required to remove sight of real animal cruelty (a live animal being cut open with a knife, during a trailer for 'Last Cannibal World'). Cut required in accordance with BBFC Guidelines and policy.
Promotional Material
Released to tie in with the 30th Anniversary of the Video Recordings Act, July 1984 and limited to 6,666 individually numbered sets, each comes with postcards featuring the DPP Section 3 cover art and Graham Humphrey’s original cover art.
The Video Nasties continue to be a major source of interest to this day, and after the crtical and sales success of Video Nasties 1, comes the return! Video Nasties 2 is released to tie-in with the establishment of the Video Recordings Act.
Disc One: “Video Nasties: Draconian Days”
Nucleus Films' critically acclaimed follow-up documentary to 'VIDEO NASTIES: MORAL PANIC, CENSORSHIP AND VIDEOTAPE' (2010) from Director Jake West and producer Marc Morris who continue to uncover the shocking story of home entertainment following the introduction of the 1984 Video Recordings Act. The United Kingdom was plunged into a new Dark Age of the most restrictive censorship, where the horror movie became the bloody eviscerated victim of continuing dread created by self-aggrandizing moral guardians, and the film charts the consequences of this, including subversive social culture that sprung up around it. With fascinating interviews and more jaw dropping archive footage, get ready to reflect and rejoice on the passing of a turbulent time.
Discs Two and Three: "The Section 3 List"
Presents the official additional 82 titles that were officially designated under "Section 3" of the Obscene Publications Act by the Director of Public Prosecutions. These titles were liable for seizure and forfeiture by the police, removed from sale or hire and then destroyed; although they were not ultimately prosecuted. This amazing list was discovered whilst researching legal paperwork for the original "VIDEO NASTIES: THE DEFINITIVE GUIDE" and finally clears up why so many additional titles were historically considered to be "Video Nasties".
Titles include: 'Blood Lust' , 'Brutes & Savages', 'Cannibals', 'Dead Kids', 'Deep Red', 'Death Weekend', 'Demented', 'Eaten Alive', 'Headless Eyes', 'Hell Prison', 'Love Butcher', 'Mark of the Devil', 'Massacre Mansion', Savage Terror', 'Scream for Vengeance' 'Suicide Cult , "The Texas Chain Saw Massacre', 'Xtro' and 'Zombie Holocaust'.
Every shocking Section 3 title is presented with its original trailer and a newly filmed featurette that includes a wide range of notable genre journalists and acclaimed media academics that explore and uncover the sordid history of each release.

[dis]

HI GUYS,THIS IS ON MY TO GET LIST!

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by Nosferatu@Cult Labs

It's a completely unnecessary scene, which Ruggero Deodato didn't even shoot (the producer did), but the BBFC's hands were tied by the Cinematograph (Animals) Act. Even so, the crocodile died a long time ago and the cut won't undo its suffering or death.

Agreed Nos. Why not just leave it. Perhaps the BBFC feel it will make those of unsound mind slaughter the next crocodile they come across on the streets of Bristol or wherever.

[Nosferatu@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs

Agreed Nos. Why not just leave it. Perhaps the BBFC feel it will make those of unsound mind slaughter the next crocodile they come across on the streets of Bristol or wherever.

Like I said, they most likely legally obligated under the Cinematograph (Animals) Act, though curiously that wasn't mentioned, with them citing 'BBFC rules and regulations' as the reason for the cut.

[Make Them Die Slowly]

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs

Agreed Nos. Why not just leave it. Perhaps the BBFC feel it will make those of unsound mind slaughter the next crocodile they come across on the streets of Bristol or wherever.

I think the crocodiles of Bristol are safe... gorillas on the other hand...

[Susan Foreman]

Not exactly censorship, but... BBC News - YouTube to block indie labels as subscription service launches

[Gothmogxx]

Just saw Video Nasties: Draconian Days, so I'll share my review I wrote on my Facebook profile and my anti-censorship group The Censor Fighting Collective. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1436811173225463/



"So I just saw Video Nasties: Draconian Days- An anti-censorship documentary by Jake West and Marc Morris (who signed my copy so thank you both very much in advance!) and sequel to Video Nasties: Moral Panic, Censorship and Videotape.

It was similar in tone to the first one, however this time the target of attention was the BBFC (British Board of Film Classification). This surprised me as I was expecting more humiliation of notorious censor-lovers like Mary Whitehouse and Graham Bright (they are in it at brief moments, one scene in particular displays Whitehouse in a debate against the Rambo movies where the people sitting behind her are dressed up as Rambo, further displaying how stupid and out of touch with society she really was) , however this new focus was actually very interesting so it was a welcome addition.

James Ferman (former head of the BBFC) is the main topic of discussion. I always knew he was incredibly strict with film classification, notoriously censoring and banning many films. However this documentary reveals his particular pet hates in films. If a scene had ninja stars or nunchuks for example, it was mandatory that that scene had to be cut. So both Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movies and Bruce Lee movies had extensive cuts to them, as well as many other martial arts movies. It is also revealed that he would actually take scissors and physically remove scenes from film reels and in addition, totally re-edit the films!

He also used the power of the censor to create propaganda. For example while showing an audience how "depraved and corrupt" a film was, he wouldn't actually show the film in full. Rather he would edit the most disgusting and censored scenes from multiple films and put them all as one slideshow so to speak. This was used to brainwash the masses (as far as they knew, this was in fact all these films had to offer: gore and sex and violence) and have them believe all he was doing was right, whereas they were in fact taking scenes out of context and showing them not in the way they were meant to be shown in feature length films. He attempted to justify his ban on the Texas Chainsaw Massacre by saying it was perfectly fine for festival-going ‘middle-class cinéastes’ to witness its depravities, “but what would happen if a factory worker in Manchester happened to see it?” And that to me can be summed up like this: "I can see it, because I am INTELLIGENT. However all you working class people of the public are to ****ing stupid to see it and thus I am banning it." We do not need decision making like that in our life and this sums up the hypocrisy of the censor.

However in a lighter portrayal, he is seen going against censorship. He defended First Blood (Rambo 1) when it was linked to the Hungerford Massacre by the press all due to the killer wearing a headband (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and he also defended Childs Play 3 when it was linked by the press to James Bulger's murder. I have already wrote essays and done videos on this Bulger case so I will leave to you to find my videos on Youtube about it as opposed to explaining it here.

In essence he is an interesting figure of sorts. On one hand he comes across as a power hungry dictator deciding what we can and can't watch, which lead to him sacking colleagues who disagreed with him and also insulting the audience through underestimating our intelligence and by showing inaccurate representations of the films. On the other hand he did come forward and defend horror and film during real-life shootings and murders, which climaxed in the legalisation of pornography in sex shops (this was due to him).

He was not a pure evil bat-shit crazy crusader like Mary Whitehouse and he was far more intelligent than Graham Bright ("Bright" to this day believes that the video nasties are both ‘evil’ and "REAL", is seen in library footage of the first documentary expressing his conviction that the films affect not just younger viewers but “dogs as well.” Head of the National Viewers and Listeners Association, and friend of Thatcher, Mary Whitehouse is also shown in the first one declaring that she has never in fact seen any of the films that she so forcefully condemns. “I actually don’t need to see, visually, what I know is in this film,” she claims).

Ultimately Ferman seems like a confused man that had little to no idea what he was doing, be it for the right or wrong purposes and just made everything up as he went along, resulting in his downfall.

Other people in the documentary include Sir James Anderton, Chief Constable of Greater Manchester and opponent of video traders.He also believed and stated that god SPOKE to him directly. I hadn't even heard of him before, but that sentence sums him up as just another Mary Whitehouse bat-shit crazy wannabe. Funny how if Charles Manson or Peter Sutcliffe were to say something like this they were laughed at, but with a Chief of Police, nobody even cares.

I may be wrong (have only seen it once) but I also thought I saw another notorious MP called Jack Straw condemning all these fake horror films and the trading of them... Though I already know that in 2009 he made it illegal for Children in care homes to report abuse... So he immediately loses credibility here based on that stance.

Aside from all this, it was fun to hear them talk about the like of how controversial titles like New York Ripper were back then. This is devoted time to where all kinds of movies I didn't even know existed are discussed.

All in all it just makes the censorship side look terrible and unprofessional, but its not like thats news. I heavily enjoyed it and look forward to watching the special features. 10/10.

PS. It makes me long for a third and final chapter covering the 2000's- present day to make it a perfect trilogy "

[Boo Radley]

Our beloved moral guardians that have stopped uncountable copy cat killings and slaughter off our streets for the last 40 years have saved us all once again!
Now, I don't have to tell you just how much better the British Board of Film Censors are now than they used to be....(Seriously, we need a sarcasm font!)
but after cutting the Borowczyk boxset to stop millions of people raping their dogs (or vice versa!) they have gone further in protecting ourselves from....err....ourselves!
Yay Censorship!! (Sarcasm font. Really needed!!)
The Spanish Chain Saw Massacre and Found have both been snippidy snipped by the privately educated elite who have deemed that these films will warp and brainwash the ordinary oik on the street that never made it into university and could quite possibly leave our fair isle in a state of bloodshed that would make Syria send aid.
Thank God for that as I am a 49 year old man and if I saw an ERECT PENIS on screen then it could quite possibly send me into a raving lunatic rushing down the high street ass raping old grannies and killing kids!
Phew! That was close!! Thanks BBFC, you're great!!