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Old 19th March 2019, 09:47 PM
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In addition to the very simple Wikipedia definition, I quite like this one from Urban Dictionary:

"The anti-hero is the hero who does the right thing, albeit with tactics that aren't always what you would call ethical. They are more interested with getting the job done than doing it as virtuously as possible, therefore showing how morally ambiguous they are. The anti-hero has become more popular with society today because people can identify better with the good-guy who sometimes does the not-so-good things; the hero who does no wrong is outdated and is becoming increasingly irrelevant in this day and age. They are the product of a society in which the line between good and bad is becoming harder to tell."

There was something else I read which basically said that anti-heroes are grey, operating somewhere in between the purity of a hero and darkness of the villain, with lots of ambiguity to their methods and character traits.

My current list is quite long!
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Antonio Salieri. Amadeus.
F. Murray Abraham.
(music composer driven to jealousy by Mozart. All I wanted was to sing to God)

Macmanus Brothers. Boondock Saints.
Sean Patrick Flanery and Norman Reedus.
(not all brothers follow the path of The Krays. We do not ask for your poor or hungry).

D-Fens. Falling Down
Michael Douglas.
(Unstable man and the crumbles at society, not everything is economic viable. The trigger its sensitive).

John Rambo. First Blood.
Sylvester Stallone.
(a man fights back at police corruption, gorilla warfare style. Nothing is over...Nothing. You just turn it off.)

Michael Corleone. The Godfather.
Al Pacino
(war hero, motioned to join the dark part of the family he didn't want to be. That's my family Kay not me).

Severus Snape. Harry Potter.
Alan Rickman.
(Not every Slitherens are bad, even after all this time...always).

Dae-Su Oh. Oldboy.
Min-sik Choi.
(after being imprisoned don't you want answers, but sometimes we won't like them. Laugh and the world laughs with you).

Travis Bickley. Taxi Driver.
Robert DeNiro.
(Vietnam Vet trying to help a girl escape her life as a prostitute. you talking to me).

Bill Munny. Unforgiven.
(retired gunslinger coerced to come back to the life he left, judging on what is actually good and bad. Deserves got nothing to do with it).

V. V For Vendetta
Hugo Weaving.
(a man seeking revenge on a society that made him the man he is now. People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people).
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Old 22nd March 2019, 07:51 AM
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last two are Pike Bishop from Wild bunch and Benny from bring me the head of alfredo garcia.
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Indeed they are .....
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ANTI-HEROES

My list kept on growing to the point where I couldn't reduce it to only ten characters. Well, I could have, but I thought you might like to see the 40-strong long list, where I'm still not 100% happy with the order..
  1. The Dude (Jeff Bridges, The Big Lebowski)
  2. Rick Blaine (Humphrey Bogart, Casablanca)
  3. Bruce Wayne/Batman (Christian Bale, The Dark Knight Trilogy)
  4. James Bond (Sean Connery, Dr No; George Lazenby, On Her Majesty's Secret Service; Daniel Craig, Casino Royale)
  5. Rick Deckard (Harrison Ford, Blade Runner)
  6. Ethan Edwards (John Wayne, The Searchers)
  7. Travis Bickle (Robert De Niro, Taxi Driver)
  8. William Munney (Clint Eastwood, Unforgiven)
  9. Blondie (Clint Eastwood, The Good, the Bad and the Ugly)
  10. Napoleon Dynamite (John Heder, Napoleon Dynamite)
  11. Michael Corleone (Al Pacino, The Godfather Trilogy)
  12. Tyler Durden (Brad Pitt, Fight Club)
  13. Jack Skellington (Chris Sarandon & Danny Elfman, The Nightmare Before Christmas)
  14. Jules Winnfield (Samuel L Jackson, Pulp Fiction)
  15. Leon (Jean Reno, Leon)
  16. Renton (Ewan McGregor, Trainspotting)
  17. Charlie Allnutt (Humphrey Bogart, The African Queen)
  18. Jim Stark (James Dean, Rebel Without a Cause)
  19. Snake Plissken (Kurt Russell, Escape from New York)
  20. Walter Neff (Fred MacMurray, Double Indemnity)
  21. Oh Dae-Su (Choi Min Sik, Oldboy)
  22. Victor Frankenstein (Peter Cushing, The Curse of Frankenstein)
  23. Wade/Deadpool (Ryan Reynolds, Deadpool)
  24. Ash Williams (Bruce Campbell, Evil Dead II)
  25. Max Rockatansky (Mel Gibson, Mad Max)
  26. Harry Caul (Gene Hackman, The Conversation)
  27. Riddick (Vin Diesel, Pitch Black)
  28. Lisbeth Salander (Noomi Rapace, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo)
  29. Daniel Plainview (Daniel Day Lewis, There Will Be Blood)
  30. V (Hugo weaving, V for Vendetta)
  31. Leonard Shelby (Guy Pearce, Memento)
  32. Frank Bullitt (Steve McQueen, Bullitt)
  33. Bud White (Russell Crowe, LA Confidential)
  34. Popeye Doyle (Gene Hackman, The French Connection)
  35. Nick Wilde (Jason Bateman, Zootopia)
  36. Derek Vinyard (Edward Norton, American History X)
  37. Shrek (Mike Myers, Shrek)
  38. Terry Malloy (Marlon Brando, On the Waterfront)
  39. Marv (Mickey Rourke, Sin City)
  40. Alan Partridge (Steve Coogan, Alan Partridge: Alpha Papa)
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My thanks to everyone who contributed a list of their favourite anti-heroes, a topic I didn't realise was so big and varied.

This week is again focused on characters, usually found in films noir, but also in action films and dramas, from the classic noir films of the 1940s to many of Russ Meyer's films and some of Roger Corman's finest, to more modern movies like The Dark Knight Rises, Gone Girl and Red Sparrow.

As of last week, it might be helpful to use the Wikipedia definition as your reference point.

Quote:
A femme fatale, sometimes called a maneater or vamp, is a stock character of a mysterious and seductive woman whose charms ensnare her lovers, often leading them into compromising, dangerous, and deadly situations.
FEMME FATALES


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includes Renee/Alice from lost highway. Kim Novak in Vertigo. Norma Desmond from sunset boulevard.

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Body Heat 1981
Basic Instinct 1992
Chinatown 1974
Double Indemnity 1944
Gilda 1946
The Last Seduction 1994
The Maltese Falcon 1941
Murder, My Sweet 1944
Niagara 1953
The Postman Always Rings Twice 1946
Too Late For Tears 1949
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FEMME FATALES
  1. Phyllis Dietrichson (Barbara Stanwyck, Double Indemnity)
  2. Rita (Laura Harring, Mulholland Drive)
  3. Catherine Trammell (Sharon Stone, Basic Instinct)
  4. Madeline Elster/Judy Barton (Kim Novak, Vertigo)
  5. Evelyn Mulwray (Faye Dunaway, Chinatown)
  6. Gilda Munson Farrell (Rita Hayworth, Gilda)
  7. Brigid O'Shaughnessy (Mary Astor, The Maltese Falcon)
  8. Norma Desmond (Gloria Swanson, Sunset Boulevard)
  9. Lynn Bracken (Kim Basinger, L.A. Confidential)
  10. Cora Smith (Lana Turner, The Postman Always Rings Twice)

Plenty of honourable mentions, in no particular order:
  • Dorothy Vallence (Isabella Rossellini, Blue Velvet)
  • Natalie (Carrie Anne Moss, Memento)
  • Amy Dunne (Rosamond Pike, Gone Girl)
  • Laura Hunt (Gene Tierney, Laura)
  • Selena Kyle (Batman Returns, Michelle Pfeiffer & The Dark Knight Rises, Anne Hathaway)
  • Doris Crane (Frances McDormand, The Man Who Wasn't There)
  • Sil (Natasha Henstridge, Species)
  • Renee Madison/Alice Wakefield (Patricia Arquette, Lost Highway)
  • Ginger Knowles (Halle Berry, Swordfish)
  • Kathryn Merteuil (Sarah Michelle Geller, Cruel Intentions)
  • Kitty Collins (Ava Gardner, The Killers)
  • Gail (Rosario Dawson, Sin City)
  • Lana Carlson (Ida Lupino, They Drive by Night)
  • Suzie Toller (Neve Campbell, Wild Things)
  • Helen Grayle/Velma Valento (Claire Trevor, Murder, My Sweet)
  • Mrs. Robinson (Anne Bancroft, The Graduate)
  • Rachael (Sean Young, Blade Runner)
  • Alex Forrest (Glenn Close, Fatal Attraction)
  • Pussy Galore (Honor Blackman, Goldfinger)
  • Veronica Sawyer (Winona Ryder, Heathers)
  • Mal Cobb (Marion Cotillard, Inception)
  • Ava (Alicia Vikander, Ex Machina)
  • Kathie Moffat (Jane Greer, Out of the Past)
  • Vida Pierce Forrester (Anne Blyth, Mildred Pierce)
  • Bridget Gregory (Linda Fiorentino, The Last Seduction)
  • Laura Dannon (Nora Zehetner, Brick)
  • Xenia Onatopp (Famke Janssen, GoldenEye)
  • Samantha Kane/Charly Baltimore (Geena Davis, The Long Kiss Goodnight)
  • May Day (Grace Jones, A View to a Kill)
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