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NYR is about a man who kills women because he hates them, but it's not a film solely about hating women, it merely shows a misogynistic killer at work. But it also portrays the males as being rather unlikeable and shallow too, so where's the accusations of misandry? In fact, in NYR, most of the players are hateful and unlikeable, so its world-view is more akin to misanthropy. Well, whatever the case, I enjoy these films and haven't yet found myself hating women or even treating them as lower class citizens or sex objects. So I can safely say these films have had zero effect on my world-view whatsoever. It's fiction, I don't take them seriously. In fact, I'm far more troubled by modern rom-coms that present women as ditzy, rather shallow creatures whilst the men are neanderthals who have to be trained to meet women's requirements. It's truly bizarre the stuff coming out of Hollywood at the moment.
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Another good point, Daemonia. Dr Lodge is a powerful figure who exploits his wife, Jane, to satisfy his own perverted sexual urges which brings her into contact with those three sexually aggressive Hispanics in the pool hall. The three fingered man, Mickey Scellenda, is a really nasty piece of work, Lt Williams is jaded and burnt out so is not 100% committed to solving the case and Paul is a loner who comes across as a bit weird so the only really likeable character is Fay Majors.
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As for the earlier mentioned "Likeable characters in NYR" point: I actually DO like Lt. Williams in all his grumpy "no BS"-fashion. I find this movie particularly interesting as the final act hits me emotionally no matter how often I revisit it. |
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Jack Hedley's a likable actor, I feel, and maybe that comes across in his portrayal. Yes, the ending packs an emotional wallop. |
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Anyway, all this discussion has certainly motivated me to watch NYR! Though I think I might rent it rather than buying a copy Last edited by TheOwlsAreNotWhatTheySeem; 16th June 2011 at 11:51 PM. |
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More to the point, analysing a film and coming to someone's rescue! are two completely separate things. |
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Virgin Witch is decidely sexist in its portrayal of women, but I wouldn't call it misogynistic. Again, I beg to differ on the notion that sexual inequality equals misogyny. Quote:
Good debate, though. I'm enjoying our banter, even if we don't completely see eye-to-eye on some things (I think we probably would agree on most things, though).
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One could reasonably argue the film with the most degrading depiction of women in recent years is Sex and the City. Confessions of a Shopaholic isn't much better but apparently this sequel to Satc is even worse. I haven't seen it yet and I'm dreading the prospect!
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As for this thread: Blimey, is this a movie forum or a philosophical debate? Greetings! PS: My suggestion would be: PPS: But then again - keep on debating: it's quite funny to read through all this. PPS: New York Ripper is about a misogynist - that's for sure. But I was quite satisfied when this sumbitch died at the end of the movie (yeah, that's a spoiler, innit?). You hate this selfish and weak bastard - but as long as you're sane, you'll definitely not hate women after having seen Fulci's movie. The movie does not convey any misogynistic message of any kind. It shows a misogynist at work and that such an attitude does not pay - maybe it's even pro-women? Or a bit contra-men? Just my two cents. Last edited by Prince_Vajda; 18th June 2011 at 08:16 AM. |
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