The Doctor Who Thread

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by iank

Saw Evil of the Daleks last night. Have to be honest, wasn't all that impressed. The animation is fine, but I think the problem is... the story. I watched the first 3 on Monday but couldn't get into it, but thought maybe I was just tired (it had been a long day and it was effing hot here). No such excuse last night. It's reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllly long and overextended, and boiled down the plot is actually pretty silly. I'm sure the original production was very classy and probably helped more than animation, but I found it massively inferior to Power as a story and a bit of a bore to be honest. Oh the controversy!

Agreed. I said on here when i watched it that it wasn't all that.

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs

So far i've seen the first five episodes of Evil of the Daleks.

I'm not as enthusiastic as Susan i'm afraid. Episodes 1-3 were very good but four and five were simply padding. All that happened to move the story along was the Doctor creating the human factor in a vial from Jamie's DNA. That's it in fifty minutes.

I've listened to the story a few times on soundtrack cd and seeing it animated makes more sense but it's still not a great story.

It's not a patch on Troughton's last animated release - Fury from the Deep

Power of the Daleks is way superior.

Tomb of the Cybermen was nowhere near as good as it was almost mythically made out to be either.

[Susan Foreman]

Who: Before And After #584

Name: Patsy Smart [1918 - 1996]
Year(s): 1977
Stories: The Talons Of Weng-Chiang part 1
Character(s): 'Ghoul'

Before Who:
Films: The Mailbag Robbery (1957), Song in a Strange Land (1960), Sons and Lovers (1960), The Tell-Tale Heart (1960), Return of a Stranger (1961), Design for Loving (1962), What Every Woman Wants (1962), Never Mention Murder (1965), Arthur? Arthur! (1969), Leo the Last (1970), Long Ago, Tomorrow (1971), Steptoe & Son* (1972), Baffled (1972), O Lucky Man! (1973), Great Expectations (1974), One of Our Dinosaurs Is Missing (1975), Trauma (1976), The Bawdy Adventures of Tom Jones (1976), The Pink Panther Strikes Again* (1976)

Television: The Grove Family: Petty Larceny (1957) / William Tell: Gessler's Daughter (1959) / The Case Before You (1959) / Charlesworth: From the Boys (1959) / No Hiding Place: Wheels of Fury (1959) / St. Ives [2 episodes as Mrs. McRankine (1960)] / Deadline Midnight (1960) / Police Surgeon: Lag on the Run (1960) / Peridot Flight: The Black Japanned Box (1960) / Danger Man: The Leak (1960) / Probation Officer (1961) / One Step Beyond: The Tiger (1961) / Family Solicitor: Adoption Story (1961) / Drama 61-67: Drama '61 - The Dinner Party (1961) / Boyd Q.C.: Death on Tap (1961) / The Cheaters: The Safe Way (1962) / Emergency-Ward 10 [8 episodes as Mrs. Yardley (1962)] / Saki (1962) / Man of the World: Highland Story (1962) / Benny Hill [2 episodes, different characters (1962)] / Hugh and I [4 episodes, different characters (1962-1966)] / Hancock: The Night Out (1963) / ITV Television Playhouse: A Hero with a Past (1963) / BBC Sunday-Night Play: How to Get Rid of Your Wife (1963) / Bootsie and Snudge: The Maze (1963) / Maupassant: Getting Married (1963) / Maigret: The Lost Life (1963) / First Night: Menace (1963) / Festival: Lysistrata (1964) / Armchair Theatre: St Ernie - Leather Bound (1964) / Z Cars [4 episodes, different characters (1964-1973)] / Story Parade: The Harp in the South (1964) / The Indian Tales of Rudyard Kipling; Watches of the Night (1964) / The Old Wives' Tale [2 episodes as Maggie (1964)] / Gideon C.I.D.: To Catch a Tiger (1964) / Secret Agent: Whatever Happened to George Foster? (1965) / Zero One: And One to Go (1965) / Dr. Finlay's Casebook: Body and Soul (1965) / The Newcomers [24 episodes as Mary Grange (1966)] / Sergeant Cork: The Case of the Silent Policeman (1966) / Bat Out of Hell [3 episodes as Kitty Tracey (1966)] / The Wednesday Play: Everybody's Rich Except Us (1967) / Sir Arthur Conan Doyle: The Willow House School (1967) / Vacant Lot (1967) / Softly Softly: The Linkman (1967) / ITV Play of the Week: ITV Summer Playhouse #10 - Travelling Light (1967) / The Prisoner: Arrival (1967) / The Prisoner: Dance of the Dead (1967) / Detective: Dover and the Deadly Poison Pen Letters (1968) / Brian Rix Presents …: A Public Mischief (1968) / The Avengers: Fog* (1969) / ITV Sunday Night Theatre: Better Dead (1969) / Parkin's Patch: The Good Listener (1969) / Canterbury Tales: The Shipman's Tale / The Nun's Priest's Tale (1969) / Softly Softly: Task Force: Exercise (1969) / Paul Temple: Right Villain (1970) / Dixon of Dock Green: The House in Albert Street (1970) / Wives and Daughters: Marriages (1971) / Upstairs, Downstairs* [13 episodes as Miss Roberts (1971-1973)] / Tightrope [3 episodes as Aunt Madge (1972)] / Doctor in Charge: The Fox (1972) / Jackanory Playhouse [3 episodes, different characters (1972-1977)] / Spy Trap [6 episodes as Mrs Burton (1972)] / Public Eye: The Windsor Royal (1973) / Play for Today: The Stretch (1973) / Carrie's War [2 episodes as Mrs. Gotobed (1974)] / Carry on Laughing!: One in the Eye for Harold (1975) / Village Hall: Lot 23 (1975) / Dawson's Weekly: The Clerical Error (1975) / Crown Court [2 episodes, different characters (1975-1976)] / Rule Britannia!: Sunday Best (1975) / The Sweeney: Poppy (1975) / Life and Death of Penelope: The Discovery (1976) / ...And Mother Makes Five: Unlicenced Premises (1976) / Second City Firsts: Black Bird Shout (1976) / The Emigrants: A Dream of Freedom (1976) / The Chiffy Kids: Shove Tuesday (1976)

After Who:
Films: The Hound of the Baskervilles* (1978), The Legacy (1978), Tess (1979), The Wildcats of St. Trinian's (1980), The Elephant Man (1980), Cymbeline (1982), Where's the Key? (1983), The Tragedy of Coriolanus (1984), The Chain (1984), Electric Dreams (1984), Lace II (1985), The Fourth Protocol* (1987)

Television: Nicholas Nickleby [4 episodes as Miss La Creevy (1977)] / Just William: William Clears the Slums (1977) / Blake's 7: Duel (1978) / Parables: Neighbours (1978) / The Law Centre: Fly Away, Peter, Fly Away, Paul (1978) / Happy Ever After: A Woman Called Ironside (1978) / Danger UXB: Just Like a Woman (1979) / ITV Playhouse: The Winter Ladies (1979) / Only When I Laugh: Operation Norman (1979) / Potter (1980) / The Gentle Touch: Break-In (1980) / The Squad: Search (1980) / Rumpole of the Bailey: Rumpole's Return (1980) / Sherlock Holmes and Doctor Watson: The Case of the Final Curtain (1980) / Together [4 episodes as Amy Barratt (1981)] / Open All Hours: Shedding at the Wedding (1981) / The House on the Hill: Credits and Distinctions (1981) / Angels (1981) / Emmerdale Farm [4 episodes as Lettice Noble (1982)] / Q.E.D.: Infernal Device (1982) / The Chinese Detective: Pasts (1982) / Hallelujah!: Poor Box (1983) / Terry and June [7 episodes as Miss Dingle (1983-1985)] / Rentaghost [2 episodes as Aunt Mabel (1983-1984)] / Never the Twain: A Nose for Quality (1983) / Mitch: Who Must Remain Anonymous (1984) / Up the Elephant and Round the Castle: The Taste of Money (1985) / Miss Marple: The Moving Finger* (1985) / The Practice [7 episodes as May Beswick (1985)] / Minder: Give Us This Day Arthur Daley's Bread (1985) / All at Number 20 (1986) / Slinger's Day: The Nightshift (1986) / Casualty* [2 episodes as Winnie (1986)] / Filthy Rich & Catflap (1987) / Farrington of the F.O.: We're Having a Heat Wave (1987) / Sunday Premiere: Claws (1987) / Theatre Night: Strife (1988) / King & Castle: Cons (1988) / The Bill: Stealing Cars and Nursery Rhymes (1988) / The Return of Shelley: Help! (1990)

[Susan Foreman]

In memory of Henry Woolf (1930 - 2021)

Played The Collector in the 1977 story 'The Sun Makers'

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

The Drahvins, as seen in 1965's Galaxy Four.

[Susan Foreman]

The title for the fifth episode of Series 13 has been revealed

The synopsis for 'Survivors Of The Flux' is:

""As the forces of evil mass, the Doctor, Yaz and Dan face perilous journeys and seemingly insurmountable obstacles in their quest for survival""

[Susan Foreman]

Who: Before And After #585

Name: Vincent Wong [1928 - 2015]
Year(s): 1977
Stories: The Talons Of Weng-Chiang part 1, The Talons Of Weng-Chiang part 5 – The Talons Of Weng-Chiang part 6
Character(s): Ho

Note:

• Had previously appeared in an uncredited role as a Chinese delegate in the 1972 story 'Day Of The daleks'
• Would later appear in an incredited role as the Chinese captain in the 1983 story 'Enlightenment'

Before Who:
Films: The Camp on Blood Island (1958), Yesterday's Enemy (1958), The Inn of the Sixth Happiness (1958), Yesterday's Enemy (1959), The Stranglers of Bombay (1959), The Terror of the Tongs (1961), Goldfinger (1964), The Brides of Fu Manchu (1966), The Virgin Soldiers (1969), Diamonds Are Forever* (1971), One of Our Dinosaurs Is Missing (1975), Journey Through the Black Sun (1976), The Spy Who Loved Me* (1977), Come Spy with Me (1977)

Television: ITV Television Playhouse: A Holiday Abroad (1960) / BBC Sunday-Night Play: A Kind of Strength (1961) / The Champions: The Beginning (1968) / The Avengers: The Interrogators* (1969) / Q6 (1969) / W. Somerset Maugham [2 episodes, different characters (1970)] / Oh in Colour (1970) / Monty Python's Flying Circus: How to Recognise Different Parts of the Body* (1970) / Birds on the Wing (1971) / The Adventurer: Miss Me Once, Miss Me Twice and Miss Me Once Again (1972) / Thirty Minutes Worth (1973) / The Sweeney: Supersnout (1975) / Space 1999 [4 episodes as Toshiro Fuji (1975)] / Rogue's Rock [3 episodes as Wong (1975)] / It Ain't Half Hot Mum: Pale Hands I Love (1976) / Orde Wingate: Turn You to the Strong Hold (1976) / Warship: The Girl from the Sea (1977)

After Who:
Films: The Thief of Baghdad (1978), Silver Dream Racer (1980), The Long and the Short and the Tall (1981), Pink Floyd: The Wall (1982), Privates on Parade (1983), The Last Day (1983), Ping Pong (1986), Little Shop of Horrors* (1986), Three Kinds of Heat (1987), Batman* (1989), Resnick: Rough Treatment (1993), Wild Justice (1994), Supply & Demand (1997), Kiss of the Dragon (2001), Hype (2001), Die Another Day (2002), Batman Begins (2005), The First Emperor (2006)

Television: The New Avengers: Trap* (1977) / Gangsters: The Dictates of Shen Tang (1978) / A Soft Touch: Hi There Pop Pickers (1978) / Return of the Saint: Assault Force (1978) / The Upchat Connection: Mystery Tour (1978) / The Professionals [2 episodes, different characters (1980-1982)] / Spy!: The Tokyo Ring (1980) / The Chinese Detective [2 episodes as Mr. Hong (1981)] / Goodbye Darling [2 episodes as Luis (1981)] / Terry and June: It's a Knockout (1981) / Tales of the Unexpected: Who's Got the Lady? (1982) / Reilly - Ace of Spies: Prelude to War (1983) / Duty Free: Casino (1984) / Tenko [2 episodes as the Raffles Barman (1984)] / Dempsey and Makepeace: Make Peace Not War (1985) / Mind Your Language [13 episodes as Fu Wong Chang (1986)] / Howards' Way [2 episodes as Hitoshi Serozawa (1987)] / Noble House [4 episodes as Lim Chu (1988)] / Poirot: The Lost Mine (1990) / TECX: 17K (1990) / Lovejoy: Riding in Rollers (1991) / One Foot in the Grave: The Broken Reflection* (1992) / Screenplay: Small Metal Jacket (1992) / Unnatural Pursuits: I'm the Author (1992) / Between the Lines: A Face in the Crowd (1994) / Performance: Summer Day's Dream (1994) / Bramwell (1996) / Captain Butler: Desert Island Dick (1997) / Jonathan Creek: Black Canary (1998) / Im Visier der Zielfahnder: Die Falle (2002)

[Susan Foreman]

In memory of Roy Holder (1946 - 2021)

Played Krelper in the 1984 story 'The Caves of Androzani'

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

The cover of the 1991 Target book Four to Doomsday (1982) with new cover art by Alister Pearson.

The book was originally published in 1983 with a photo cover.

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

I think i just watched fifty minutes of random deleted scenes from the forthcoming dvd box set. Utter shite!

Next week looks good. A straightforward (hopefully) horror style story centering on Weeping Angels. It's the one co-written by Maxine Alderton so will probably be the best of the series by far as her last one was.

[gag]

Originally Posted by Demdike@Cult Labs

I think i just watched fifty minutes of random deleted scenes from the forthcoming dvd box set. Utter shite!

Next week looks good. A straightforward (hopefully) horror style story centering on Weeping Angels. It's the one co-written by Maxine Alderton so will probably be the best of the series by far as her last one was.

The constant flicking around from one scene to another , back and forth etc annoyed me big time.