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Old 17th August 2017, 08:07 PM
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For Indiana Jones?

I'm probably in the minority, but The Last Crusade is my favourite because it's a lot of fun and because I saw it at the cinema when I was young and loved it I still do.
Nope i agree Nos. But i like all four. I think Crystal Skull is better than Temple.
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Old 17th August 2017, 08:15 PM
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I know that objectively speaking, Raiders of the Lost Ark is the best of the series because of the quality of the acting, screenwriting, direction etc., but it's really hard to look past nostalgia and great childhood memories. I watched them recently and found the weakest to be Temple of Doom, a film I found borderline racist and tiresome, with never-ending action sequences compensating for plot. Also, Willie Scott is never fully developed beyond 'shrill female in distress' character trope and Short Round is annoying.
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Old 17th August 2017, 09:49 PM
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I know.
Tbh I never really cared for sequels of any sort until about 10 years ago. Aliens being the exception

The bit in the raft in Temple always made me laugh.
If I had known what was to come though ....
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Old 18th August 2017, 12:06 AM
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Sorry but Temple of Doom is without doubt the second best Indiana jones film, sure the female lead is a bit hollow, but it encapsulates the cliffhanger type films it tries to emulate perfectly.
Raiders is surely the best film but Temple sums up all those dodgy Tarzan type old films in that it's slightly racist but has all those old adventure style stuff incorporated, a unknown landscape, tribal style old gods and mystical idols.

To me it's a lot more boundary pushing than the later films with the sacrifice scenes reminiscent of the Hammer style and 30's voodoo horror with Indy becoming possessed, also love the pure spectacle of the rope bridge scene and the crazy musical number that starts the whole film off.

Also the early bad guys remind me of all that charlie chan type shit.
So yer it may be slightly racist but that is how the old serials were.
If that is what influenced the creators then surely Temple is the most pure distillation of that era.

Last Crusade while good is just a re-run of the first film in my opinion with the Connery added and while the german bird is pretty sexy the end scene with the holy grail is a bit of a let down and the booby trap scenes are underwhelming.
I didn't mind Crystal skull at the time but the more i see it it is just excruciatingly painful.
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Why is everything that features non-white people classed as slightly racist?

Please say why Temple of Doom is slightly racist?
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Why is everything that features non-white people classed as slightly racist?

Please say why Temple of Doom is slightly racist?
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Why? It's discussing a film. Completely on-topic. Birth of a Nation has been talked about frequently on here.
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Why? It's discussing a film. Completely on-topic. Birth of a Nation has been talked about frequently on here.
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/indi...temple-of-doom
"even back in 1984 when the film was first released though, it was stung by accusations of racism in its portrayal of a deprived village in North India. Indeed, the Indian government refused permission to film in the country, partly on racism grounds. Rewatching the film now, it's hard to feel comfortable with some of the scenes, and you can see the reasons for the accusations."

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"even back in 1984 when the film was first released though, it was stung by accusations of racism in its portrayal of a deprived village in North India. Indeed, the Indian government refused permission to film in the country, partly on racism grounds. Rewatching the film now, it's hard to feel comfortable with some of the scenes, and you can see the reasons for the accusations."
I just don't see that at all. It's a fact that India is one of the worlds poorest countries and half the population live in slums. Surely denial is a far more racist scenario. I mean can you imagine if the Indian villagers had been portrayed as not being poor.

Plus of course it's the evil Thuggee cult who made the village poor so there was a reason for it in the film anyway. A racist film that a young Asian boy played a hugely pivotal part in.
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I just don't see that at all. It's a fact that India is one of the worlds poorest countries and half the population live in slums. Surely denial is a far more racist scenario. I mean can you imagine if the Indian villagers had been portrayed as not being poor.

Plus of course it's the evil Thuggee cult who made the village poor so there was a reason for it in the film anyway. A racist film that a young Asian boy played a hugely pivotal part in.
there are worse examples in film to be fair, truthfully it doesn't really bother me

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