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Old 6th December 2017, 09:22 AM
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It doesn't appear in any online list of films on the subject of amnesia.

You might as well include Dirty Harry as he can't remember if he fired six shots or only five.
You could argue it

I would dispute it having to be on online lists. Its whether you can make a reasonable argument for it being there. I think given Fred Blacks out and cannot remember killing his wife. Pete Dayton, the man he changes into cannot remember the night he changed and his parents wont talk about it I would argue that amnesia is a plot point in the film.

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I'm of the opinion that Lost Highway is, like Mulholland Drive, a film about memory loss and the implications of (unintentionally) erasing a memory. It's one I'm tempted to put on my list, one that is already about six films too long!
It's two people though - Fred and Pete - Pullman and Getty. As i say it's a film that fails to appear in any online lists. Mulholland Drive does so it's not like they er' forgot about Lynch.
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Old 6th December 2017, 09:24 AM
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It doesn't appear in any online list of films on the subject of amnesia.

You might as well include Dirty Harry as he can't remember if he fired six shots or only five.
I did a quick search and found a review which has a superb opening paragraph:

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"Dick Laurent is dead."

It’s the sentence that both begins and ends the film. It is spoken to and by the same person. The audience clearly hears it twice, yet we're never quite sure if the one-sided conversation actually happened, or if it was all just some fractured, schizoid dream. David Lynch has been quoted as saying that Lost Highway is an example of a psychogenic fugue, a state of mind often characterized by an abandonment of personality and memories, like amnesia. In their place, another persona emerges. It may be a fantasy version of oneself, or a more idealized concept of one's inner strengths and/or weaknesses. In this case, a convicted killer named Fred Madison may or may not physically transform into troubled mechanic Pete Dayton. Considering it comes from the mind of America's premiere auteur, all (or none) of it may be true.
https://www.popmatters.com/david-lyn...496160626.html

I suppose the one thing with Lost Highway, like many of David Lynch's more obscure films, is that it means different things to different viewers.
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Speaking of amnesia, Nos.

Did you forget your Noir lists?

He asks quickly changing the subject as he knows the fight may be lost)
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Old 6th December 2017, 09:33 AM
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I think unlike Mulholland drive. Lost Highway didn't really penetrate the mainstream consciousness. I think it was something of a flop on release.
The review talking about the psychogenic fugue state is referencing Lynch in the book Lynch on Lynch. Key points in the film are reliant on Fred/Petes loss of memory. Therefore I Feel it fits the criteria.

If people overwhelmingly disagree I'll bow to democracy and change it for this....

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I think unlike Mulholland drive. Lost Highway didn't really penetrate the mainstream consciousness. I think it was something of a flop on release.
The review talking about the psychogenic fugue state is referencing Lynch in the book Lynch on Lynch. Key points in the film are reliant on Fred/Petes loss of memory. Therefore I Feel it fits the criteria.

If people overwhelmingly disagree I'll bow to democracy and change it for this....

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No, Nos' post above certainly qualified Lost Highway.
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Speaking of amnesia, Nos.

Did you forget your Noir lists?

He asks quickly changing the subject as he knows the fight may be lost)
It's an ongoing project as the more I try to put them in order, the more films which spring to mind and it is down multiple decades from the 1940s to the 21st-century. They will be posted this morning!
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Films Noir

1940s:
  1. The Maltese Falcon (1941)
  2. Double Indemnity (1944)
  3. The Third Man (1949)
  4. The Big Sleep (1946)
  5. Laura (1944)
  6. The Lady from Shanghai (1947)
  7. Mildred Pierce (1945)
  8. Out of the Past (1947)
  9. The Lost Weekend (1945)
  10. Gilda (1946)

Hated leaving these out: Brighton Rock (1947), The Postman Always Rings Twice (1946), Dark Passage (1947), The Naked City (1948), Murder, My Sweet (1944)

1950s:
  1. Vertigo (1958)
  2. Sunset Boulevard (1950)
  3. Touch of Evil (1958)
  4. Diabolique (1955)
  5. Strangers on a Train (1951)
  6. Night of the Hunter (1955)
  7. All About Eve (1950)
  8. The Killing (1956)
  9. Sweet Smell of Success (1957)
  10. Dial M for Murder (1954)

Close, but no cigar (from Keyes, of course) Rififi (1955), The Big Heat (1953), Kiss Me Deadly (1955), In a Lonely Place (1950) I Confess (1953), The Asphalt Jungle (1950), The Wrong Man (1956), Ace in the Hole (1951)

1970s and ‘80s:
  1. Blade Runner (1983)
  2. Chinatown (1974)
  3. Taxi Driver (1976)
  4. Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988)
  5. Klute (1971)
  6. Blood Simple (1984)
  7. Get Carter (1971)
  8. Blue Velvet (1986)
  9. Thief (1981)
  10. The Long Goodbye (1973)

1990s:
  1. Pulp Fiction (1994)
  2. Seven (1995)
  3. The Usual Suspects (1995)
  4. Fargo (1996)
  5. The Big Lebowski (1998)
  6. L.A. Confidential (1997)
  7. Dark City (1998)
  8. Reservoir Dogs (1992)
  9. Bound (1996)
  10. A Simple Plan (1998)

2000s:
  1. Mulholland Dr. (2001)
  2. Zodiac (2007)
  3. I Saw the Devil (2010)
  4. Sin City (2005)
  5. The Man Who Wasn't There (2001)
  6. Brick (2005)
  7. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (2005)
  8. Infernal Affairs (2002)
  9. Gone Baby Gone (2007)
  10. Drive (2011)
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Great Noir lists, Nos.

The only one i would contest is Dirty Harry. Sorry but that's never seen film Noir.

No, actually. The Lost Weekend isn't Noir either. Just because it's a drama in black and white with Noir like flourishes doesn't mean it's actually Noir. That's just my opinion though.

I also can't believe you never mentioned The Thin Man. A 5* film from one of the great Noir crime writers - Dashiell Hammett. I know it's pre-forties but still.
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Great Noir lists, Nos.

The only one i would contest is Dirty Harry. Sorry but that's never seen film Noir.
It is one where I'm not entirely convinced, but it is a modern take on the PI and I was tempted to put Shaft instead as he is a PI rather than a policeman.
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