The Doctor Who Thread

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by Rob4

I would have given The Creature from the Pit and Underworld lower than 3

I like Creature. Adrasta is probably the best female villain in the history of the show.

As for Underworld. How can anything starring Alan Lake be a 3/10?

[Rob4]

I've just done the poll too for a bit of fun. Interestingly there were so many poor later Tom Baker stories I think Jon Pertwee came out with the best average.

I only gave out three 10s. I did give Genesis a 10 mainly based on the Davros scene which is just a great piece of writing and acting.

Caveat: I don't have the new blurays and its a very long time since I've seen any of these stories so my scores might differ if I'd seen them more recently.

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

Originally Posted by Rob4

I've just done the poll too for a bit of fun. Interestingly there were so many poor later Tom Baker stories I think Jon Pertwee came out with the best average.

I only gave out three 10s. I did give Genesis a 10 mainly based on the Davros scene which is just a great piece of writing and acting.

Caveat: I don't have the new blurays and its a very long time since I've seen any of these stories so my scores might differ if I'd seen them more recently.

I really can't stress how much better the new Blu-rays are. Not just the picture and sound but the whole package for each story.

I'm currently watching The Ultimate Foe (Trial's final two episodes) and there's six hours of extras to watch. That doesn't include commentaries.

And that's just one disc. There's six in total.

The likes of Arrow, Powerhouse, Criterion and co don't come close to these Blu-rays as far as all round packages go.

[Susan Foreman]

Who: Before And After #1066a / Nu-Who #145a

Name: Harry Lloyd [1983 - ]
Year(s): 2007
Stories: Human Nature – The Family Of Blood
Character(s): Jeremy Baines / Son Of Mine

Before Who:
Films: Goodbye, Mr. Chips (2002)
Television: David Copperfield [2 episodes as Young Steerforth (1999)] / M.I.T. - Murder Investigation Team (2005) / The Bill: A Social Decision (2005) / Holby City: Flight Of The Bumblebee (2006) / Vital Signs [6 episodes as Jason Bradley (2006)] / Genie in the House: Puppy Love (2006) / Robin Hood* [26 episodes as Will Scarlett (2006–2007)]

After Who:
Films: Jane Eyre (2011), The Iron Lady* [as Young Denis Thatcher] (2011), Closer to the Moon (2014), Big Significant Things (2014), The Riot Club (2014), The Theory of Everything* (2014), Narcopolis (2015), Anthropoid (2016), The Wife (2017), The Show (2019), As I Am (2019), The Lost King [as Richard III] (2022)

Television: Heroes and Villains: Richard The Lionheart (2008) / The Devil's Mistress (2008) / Inspector Lewis: Counter Culture Blues (2009) / Taking the Flak [6 episodes as Alexander Taylor-Pierce (2009)] / Game of Thrones* [5 episodes as Viserys Targaryen (2011)] / Great Expectations [2 episodes as Herbert Pocket (2011)] / The Hollow Crown: Henry IV – Part 1 (2012) / The Fear [4 episodes as Matty Beckett (2012)] / Manhattan [23 episodes as Paul Crosley (2014–2015)] / Wolf Hall [3 episodes as Harry Percy (2015)] / Supreme Tweeter [3 episodes as Harry Lloyd (2015)] / American Dad!: Widow's Pique [voice only] (2016) / Marcella [8 episodes as Henry Gibson (2016)] / Counterpart [18 episodes as Peter Quayle (2017–2019)] / Calais 2037 [5 episodes as Felix Harrison (2018)] / Hang Ups [4 episodes as Nathan Slater (2018)] / Legion [3 episodes as Charles Xavier (2019)] / Brave New World [9 episodes as Bernard Marx (2020)] / Arcane [8 episodes as Viktor (2021)]

Who: Before And After #1066b / Nu-Who #145b

Name: Tom Palmer [? - ]
Year(s): 2007
Stories: Human Nature – The Family Of Blood
Character(s): Hutchinson

Before Who:
Films: None
Television: None

After Who:
Films: ChickLit (2016), How Europe Stole My Mum (2019), 2nd Date Sex (2019)
Television: Comedy Lab: Totally Tom (2011) / Watson & Oliver (2012) / Live at the Electric [24 episodes as Tom (2012–2014)] / Common Ground: Fergus And Crispin (2013) / BBC Comedy Feeds: Bamboo (2013) / Uncle: I Like-Like You (2014) / Cardinal Burns (2014) / Siblings: Balcombe's Funeral (2014) / EastEnders [7 episodes as Simon Atmore (2016–2021)] / Holby City: Tete-a-tate (2018) / Turn Up Charlie (2019), Breeders: No Honeymoon (2020)

Who: Before And After #1066c / Nu-Who #145c

Name: Lor Wilson [? - ]
Year(s): 2007
Stories: Human Nature – The Family Of Blood
Character(s): Lucy Cartwright / Daughter Of Mine

Note(s): Reprised the role of Daughter of Mine in the 2020 Doctor Who: Lockdown! story The Shadow in the Mirror

Before Who:
Films: None
Television: The Shell Seekers [2 episodes asPenelope (2006)]

After Who:
Films: None
Television: Today's Detectives [2 episodes as Beth Ward (2016)] / Time Traveller: Retribution (2017) / Supers [18 episodes as the voice of Phoebe Chaddie (2018–2022)]

Who: Before And After #1066d / Nu-Who #145d

Name: Matthew White [? - ]
Year(s): 2007
Stories: Human Nature – The Family Of Blood
Character(s): Mr. Phillips

Before Who:
Films: None
Television: Judge John Deed: Popular Appeal (2005)

After Who:
Films: None
Television: Law & Order - UK: Buried (2009)

Who: Before And After #1066e / Nu-Who #145e

Name: Peter Bourke [1950 - ]
Year(s): 2007
Stories: Human Nature
Character(s): Mr. Chambers

Before Who:
Films: Stand Up, Virgin Soldiers (1977), The Stud* (1978), S.O.S. Titanic (1979), The Missionary (1982), On the Razzle (1983), The Jazz Detective (1992)

Television: Centre Play: Initiation (1974) / David Copperfield [4 episodes as Tommy Traddles (1974–1975)] / Coronation Street [3 episodes, different characters (1974–1993)] / Churchill's People: America! America! (1975) / Nicholas Nickleby [6 episodes as Smike (1977)] / Jackanory: Thomas And The Rag Man's Coat [5 episodes as the Storyteller (1978)] / Hazell [11 episodes as Graham Morris (1979)] / The History of Mr. Polly (1980) / Play for Today: Reluctant Chickens (1983) / Studio [7 episodes as Adrian (1983) / Strangers and Brothers (1984) / Marjorie and Men: Poor Little Buttercup (1985) / The Black Tower (1985) / Gentlemen and Players: Loyalties (1989) / Traffik [4 episodes as Henderson (1989)] / Birds of a Feather: Someone Else's Baby (1990) / Love Hurts: Blue Heaven (1994) / The Brittas Empire: Snap Happy (1996) / Bugs: Hell And High Water (1998) / All About Me: A Dog Called Wonga (2004) / The Bill: Inner Demons (2007)

After Who:
Films: The New Wave (2019)
Television: None

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

A promo image of Martha Jones (Freema Agyeman) and the Doctor (David Tennant) for Daleks in Manhattan in 2007.

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

In the shops today.

Doctor Who Magazine Special Edition # 63 Showrunners.

It's quite refreshing not to have any mention of Davies, Chibnall or Moffat on the cover.

[Susan Foreman]

Who: Before And After #1067 / Nu-Who #146

Name: Gerald Horan [1962 - ]
Year(s): 2007
Stories: Human Nature – The Family Of Blood
Character(s): Farmer Clark / Father Of Mine

Before Who:
Films: My Beautiful Laundrette (1985), Hidden City (1987), Sammy and Rosie Get Laid (1987), Tank Malling (1989), Look Back in Anger (1989), Chicago Joe and the Showgirl (1990), Shoot to Kill (1990), Palmer (1991), Much Ado About Nothing (1993), Mary Shelley's Frankenstein* (1994), Immortal Beloved (1994), A Midwinter's Tale (1995), Cruel Train (1995), Different for Girls (1996), Les Misérables (1998), The Sleeper (2000), NCS: Manhunt (2001), Hot Money (2001), The Last Great Wilderness (2002), Nicholas Nickleby (2002), Bright Young Things (2003), Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (2003), The Legend of the Tamworth Two (2004), Tom Brown's Schooldays (2005), Imagine Me & You (2005), Oliver Twist (2005), The Chatterley Affair (2006), Banglatown Banquet (2006), As You Like It (2006)

Television: The Bill [5 episodes, different characters (1985–2006)] / The Singing Detective [6 episodes as Reginald (1986)] / London's Burning [20 episodes as Charisma (1986–1994)] / Brookside [2 episodes as Martin Cox (1987)] / Les Girls [7 episodes as Mervyn (1988)] / CBS Summer Playhouse: Outpost (1989) / Poirot: Double Sin (1990) / Ruth Rendell Mysteries: Means Of Evil (1991) / Boon: The Night Before Christmas (1991) / Screen Two: 3 episodes, different characters (1991–1995)] / Casualty [4 episodes, different characters (1991–2019)] / Lovejoy: Angel Trousers (1992) / Science Fiction: Sherlock Holmes And The Case Of The Missing Link [as John Watson (1992) / A Touch of Frost: Nothing To Hide (1994) / Heartbeat: It's All In The Game (1995) / Kavanagh QC: A Sense Of Loss (1996) / Soldier Soldier: Deliver Us From Evil (1996) / The Ice House* [2 episodes as D.S. Robinson (1997)] / Snap [6 episodes as Dave Taylor (1997)] / Pilgrims Rest: Rock Of Ages (1997) / Wycliffe: Time Out (1998) / Harbour Lights [16 episodes as Tony Simpson (1999–2000)] / This Is Personal - The Hunt for the Yorkshire Ripper [2 episodes as Detective Chief Superintendent John Domaille (2000)] / Never Never [2 episodes as Dave Bell (2000)] / NCS Manhunt [6 episodes as DC Charlie Spanish (2002)] / My Uncle Silas: The Race (2003) / Down to Earth: Still Waters (2004) / My Family: The Mouthtrap (2004) / Agatha Christie's Marple: A Murder Is Announced (2005) / Timewatch: Murder In Rome (2005) / Doc Martin: Old Dogs (2005) / Dalziel and Pascoe [2 episodes as Jim Webster (2006)] / The Green Green Grass: More Questions Than Answers (2006) / The Royal [2 episodes as Ned Worsley (2006–2008)]

After Who:
Films: The Bank Job (2008), My Week with Marilyn (2011), Gambit (2012), Walter (2014), Cinderella (2015), The Vote (2015), Beauty and the Beast* (2017), Murder on the Orient Express* (2017), All Is True (2018), Artemis Fowl (2020), Belfast (2021), Allelujah (2022)

Television: Lark Rise to Candleford [6 episodes as Mr. Paxton (2008)] / Kingdom [14 episodes as D.C. Yelland (2007–2009)] / Inspector Lewis: The Dead Of Winter (2010) / Any Human Heart (2010) / Silk (2011) / Appropriate Adult [2 episodes as Howard Ogden (2011)] / DCI Banks: Friend Of The Devil (2011) / Dancing on the Edge [3 episodes as Gunson (2013)] / WPC 56 [5 episodes as Desk Sgt Peter Pratt (2013)] / Family Tree [4 episodes, different characters (2013)] / New Tricks: The Sins Of The Father (2013) / Midsomer Murders: Let Us Prey (2014) / Mr. Sloane [3 episodes as Mr. Saunders (2014)] / Da Vinci's Demons [2 episodes as Rodrigo (2014–2015)] / Detectorists [19 episodes as Terry Seymour (2014–2022)] / Cradle to Grave (2015) / Outlander [4 episodes as Quartermaster John O'Sullivan (2016–2017)] / Little Boy Blue (2017) / Settling [6 episodes as Rob (2018)] / Des (2020) / The Outlaws [2 episodes as Hilgard (2021)] / The Thief, His Wife and the Canoe (2022)

[Demdike@Cult Labs]

The cover of the Target novelisation of Kinda, published in 1983.

[Demoncrat]

Currently listening to the Pescaton story, then Downtime methinks ....

[Susan Foreman]

Who: Before And After #1068 / Nu-Who #147

Name: Pip Torrens [1960 - ]
Year(s): 2007
Stories: Human Nature – The Family Of Blood
Character(s): Mr Rocastle

Note(s): Appeared in Big Finish Productions audio adventures:

• In the 'Doctor Who Main Range' story 'Eldrad Must Die!'
• In the 'Ninth Doctor Adventures' story 'Break the Ice'

Before Who:
Films: Oxford Blues (1984), Lady Jane (1986), Little Dorrit (1987),A Handful of Dust (1988), Voice of the Heart (1989), How to Get Ahead in Advertising (1989), Bearskin: An Urban Fairytale (1989), Mountains of the Moon (1990), Eminent Domain (1990), The Object of Beauty (1991), Patriot Games* (1992), The Remains of the Day (1993), Incognito (1997), Tomorrow Never Dies (1997), Rogue Trader* (1999), Longitude (2000), Trust (2000), Lorna Doone (2000), The Whistle-Blower (2001), To End All Wars (2001), Revelation (2001), The Mystic Masseur (2001), All the Queen's Men (2001), Sunday (2002), Aka Albert Walker (2002), Dead Gorgeous (2002), The Project (2002), Darwin's Daughter [as Charles Darwin] (2002), Second Nature (2003), Gifted (2003), When I'm Sixty-Four (2004), A View from a Hill (2005), The Government Inspector (2005), Valiant [voice only] (2005), Pride & Prejudice (2005), Ian Fleming: Bondmaker [as Noel Coward] (2005), Class of '76 (2005), Missing (2006), Dresden (2006), The Chatterley Affair (2006), Pinochet's Last Stand (2006), The Mark of Cain (2007), The Bad Mother's Handbook (2007), Flood (2007)

Television: Hold the Back Page: Power Games (1986) / The Lenny Henry Show [6 episodes as PC Monkhouse (1987)] / Theatre Night: Arms And The Man (1989) / The Nightmare Years [4 episodes as Major Radford (1989)] / Chimera [3 episodes as Windeler (1991)] / Poirot [2 episodes, different characters (1991–2006)] / Performance: Absolute Hell (1991) / Van der Valk: Still Water (1992) / The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles [2 episodes as Howard Carter (1992-1995)] Medics (1992) / Lovejoy: Fly The Flag (1993) / Minder: The Great Trilby (1993) / Maigret: Maigret On The Defensive (1993) / Jeeves and Wooster [2 episodes as Bingo (1992–1993)] / To Play the King [3 episodes as Andrew Harding (1993)] / A Dark Adapted Eye [2 episodes as Chad (1994)] / Funky Black Shorts: The Godsend (1994) / The Brittas Empire: Brussels Calling (1994) / Kavanagh QC: Nothing But The Truth (1995) / The Bill [5 episodes, different characters (1995–2007)] / Hamish Macbeth: The Great Lochdubh Mystery (1995) / The Ruth Rendell Mysteries [2 episodes as Michael Quin (1996)] / Tales from the Crypt: About Face (1996) / Crime Traveller: A Death In The Family* (1997) / Bodyguards [6 episodes as Robert Ferguson (1997)] / Soldier Soldier [2 episodes as Maj Lawrence Brownham (1997)] / The Unknown Soldier [3 episodes as Major Stephen Phelps (1998)] / Murder Most Horrid: Elvis, Jesus And Zack (1999) / Big Bad World: Be Nice To Posh People (1999) / Pure Wickedness [3 episodes as Dr. Phil Gold (1999)] / Peak Practice [2 episodes as Harry Kenyon (1999)] / Black Cab: Busy Body (2000) / Office Gossip: Moving On (2001) / The Infinite Worlds of H.G. Wells [6 episodes as Mark Pattison (2001)] / Ted and Alice [3 episodes as Dr. Handford (2002)] / Believe Nothing: Get Rich Quick (2002) / tlc: Staying Awake (2002) / Shackleton[2 episodes as James McIlroy (2002)] / At Home with the Braithwaites (2003) / Where the Heart Is: My Way (2003) / Trial & Retribution: Suspicion (2003) / Seven Wonders of the Industrial World: The Sewer King (2003) / The Last King (2003) / Red Cap: Betrayed (2004) / Casualty: World Gone Wrong (2004) / Messiah: The Promise [2 episodes as DCI Walmsely (2004)] / My Dad's the Prime Minister: Diaries (2004) / Rosemary & Thyme: Up The Garden Path (2004) / Agatha Christie's Marple: 4:50 From Paddington* [as Noel Coward] (2004) / Medici - Godfathers of the Renaissance: Birth Of A Dynasty (2004) / Wire in the Blood [3 episodes, different characters (2004–2008)] / The Rotters' Club: The Chick And The Hairy Guy (2005) / No Angels (2005) / The Last Detective: Towpaths Of Glory (2005) / Rome: Kalends Of February (2005) / Broken News [6 episodes as Sam French (2005)] / Green Wing [2 episodes as the Neurosurgeon (2006)] / The Path to 9/11 [2 episodes as Paul Kessler (2006)] / Rebus: Let It Bleed (2006) / Spooks: Agenda (2006) / Ancient Rome - The Rise and Fall of an Empire: The Fall Of Rome (2006) / Waking the Dead [2 episodes as Dennis Holland (2007)] / Inspector Lewis: Expiation (2007)

After Who:
Films: Miss Austen Regrets (2007), Consenting Adults (2007), Queen Victoria's Men (2008), Easy Virtue (2008), Breaking the Mould [voice only] (2009), Dorian Gray (2009), U Be Dead (2009), St Trinian's 2: The Legend of Fritton's Gold (2009), Through a Desert Song (2010), Largo Winch II (2011), Love's Kitchen (2011), My Week with Marilyn [as Sir Kenneth Clark] (2011), War Horse (2011), The Iron Lady (2011), Bel Ami (2012), The Fall of Singapore: The Great Betrayal (2012), Anna Karenina (2012), The Scapegoat (2012), Gambit (2012), The Lady Vanishes (2013), Salting the Battlefield (2014), Walter (2014), Gemma Bovery (2014), Effie Gray (2014), Marked (2014), The Danish Girl (2015), Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens* (2015), Kids in Love (2016), Letters from Baghdad [voice only] (2016), Darkest Hour (2017), Down a Dark Hall (2018), The Aftermath (2019)

Television: The Chase (2007) / Silent Witness: Peripheral Vision (2007) / Heartbeat: Sweet Sorrow (2009) / Collision (2009) / The Secret Diary of a Call Girl (2010) / Coronation Street [6 episodes as the Prosecuting Q.C. (2010)] / Midsomer Murders [2 episodes, different characters (2010–2016)] / The Promise [4 episodes as Major John Arbuthnot (2011)] / Silk [4 episodes as HHJ Makin (2011–2014)] / Law & Order: UK [5 episodes as Philip Nevins (2011–2014)] / Outnumbered [2 episodes as Armitage (2011)] / Hustle: Gold Finger (2012) / Whitechapel (2012) / One Night [3 episodes as Mr. Lerner (2012)] / The Hollow Crown: Henry IV, Part 2 (2012) / Switch (2012) / Spy: Codename – Double Oh (2012) / Father Brown: The Devil's Dust (2013) / Yes, Prime Minister: The Poisoned Chalice (2013) / Death in Paradise: A Deadly Curse (2013) / Black Mirror: The Waldo Moment (2013) / Breathless (2013) / Fleming [4 episodes as Esmond Rothermere (2014)] / Inspector George Gently: Gently With Honour (2014) / Grantchester [3 episodes as Edward Kendall (2014–2016)] / The Heavy Water War - Stopping Hitler's Atomic Bomb [6 episodes (2015)] / Poldark [29 episodes as Cary Warleggan (2015–2019)] / Up the Women [3 episodes as Lawrence (2015)] / Versailles* [17 episodes as Cassel (2015–2017)] / War & Peace [2 episodes as Prince Bagration (2016)] / The Crown [17 episodes as Tommy Lascelles (2016–2019)] / Hetty Feather: Changes (2016) / Preacher [33 episodes as Herr Starr (2017–2019)] / Patrick Melrose [4 episodes as Nicolas Pratt (2018)] / Death and Nightingales [3 episodes as Maurice Fairbrother (2018)] / Deep State [6 episodes as William Kingsley (2018–2019)] / Des (2020) / Roadkill [3 episodes as Joe Lapidus (2020)] / Succession [2 episodes as Peter Munion (2021) / The Nevers* [12 episodes as Lord Massen (2021–2022)] / Sherwood[3 episodes as Commissioner Charles Dawes (2022)]