Demons: The Official Announcement

[Steel76]

Originally Posted by LoBo

Dual Layer DVDs usually takes up about 8GB, so 12.2GB is pretty low. 15.6 kbps is also pretty low. DVDs can have max 10 kbps. I think the screencaptures looks mostly good, but it would have looked improved if both films took up more GB and had higher bitrate. They probably didn` use 50GB discs or a second disc because it would cost more money.

Yeah, I haven´t seen a Blu-Ray with a bitrate this low since the US BD of the original "Black Christmas", that has an horrible amount of artifacts throughout the entire movie, kinda looking like an Xvid.

But, as I mentioned above, it might not be as bad as it sounds since most people still seems positive. Though I wonder what size their screens are, as these things aren´t that noticable on 32-40 inch screens.

They could easly have saved a lot of money for 50gb discs if they didn´t release the steelbook.
Extras are fun, but if it´s at the expense of the quality of the movie itself, then it´s a HUGE no-no.

[LoBo]

Warner Brothers early BDs like for example Out For Justice used only 10.764 GB for the film and had an average of 14 in bitrate. They are guilty of having many films with such low bitrate and so little GB for the films + lossy audio.

[Steel76]

Originally Posted by James Morton

I presume someone has mentioned it already.....
but on another site a review of Arrow's version of DEMONS will unecessarily include 'End of first half' in Italian. er..its not a long film
why is this mentioned on the transfer?

It´s on the original negative, and have been there on some earlier editions as well. After I saw the screenshot of it, I definetaly have seen it before.
I was expecting an intermission where the movie fades to black and have a short pause. But that´s not the case here, so it won´t disturb the flow of the movie, and it´s placed at a fitting place, making it kinda funny

[Steel76]

Originally Posted by LoBo

Warner Brothers early BDs like for example Out For Justice used only 10.764 GB for the film and had an average of 14 in bitrate. They are guilty of having many films with such low bitrate and so little GB for the films + lossy audio.

Ouch! Now that´s a record so far
At least it doesn´t have heavy filmgrain like "Black Christmas" which takes an extra toll on the encodes, using such a low bitrate.

[bgart13]

Severin's HORROR EXPRESS is very low too, around 12gb. I suspect that if that's the data size Arrow was able to get from the owners, it was probably mastered low for tv broadcast. Something like a 90-120 min movie broadcast in HD runs about 12gb (at the high end, like something on MGM HD). This is progressive, right?

[James Morton]

Originally Posted by Steel76

It´s on the original negative, and have been there on some earlier editions as well. After I saw the screenshot of it, I definetaly have seen it before.
I was expecting an intermission where the movie fades to black and have a short pause. But that´s not the case here, so it won´t disturb the flow of the movie, and it´s placed at a fitting place, making it kinda funny

I have the R1 remastered AB dvd of DEMONS and of course its not there
a very bad shame its on the bd
I know its on the Avatar vhs copy but no way should it be on the blu ray, stupid
why Arrow............!!??

[bgart13]

I'm guessing because it's part of the original presentation? What's the big deal?

[PaulD]

Originally Posted by bgart13

I'm guessing because it's part of the original presentation? What's the big deal?

Ditto. It'll have been on the only available master that Arrow had access to. Y'know, the master they spent over a year trying to find so they could finally debut the film in HD following its initial announcement. Some people are never going to be happy.

[James Morton]

Originally Posted by PaulD

Ditto. It'll have been on the only available master that Arrow had access to. Y'know, the master they spent over a year trying to find so they could finally debut the film in HD following its initial announcement. Some people are never going to be happy.

look at SGM etc and you'll find many who agree with me
and besides are you happy w/every Arrow release?

[PaulD]

Originally Posted by James Morton

look at SGM etc and you'll find many who agree with me
and besides are you happy w/every Arrow release?

What's SGM?

And no, I have issues with some releases, I'm not a blind fan. But what would you want them to do? Turn down the only available master they had access to and delay the release by another year? The ups and downs of this release have been fairly evident on this forum since it was announced; I just think it's silly to complain about something so trivial which has also been featured on other releases of the film.